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<DIV><FONT size=4>That’s what I was telling you.&nbsp; Your phrase “government 
employees”&nbsp; covers them all.&nbsp; I’m not really in a position to 
determine whether many administrators and professors in our region are paid 
twice what they are worth but I will say the ones I know and work with are 
dedicated, hard working folks.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Sue&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com 
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:24 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=areaman@moscow.com href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">Dan 
Carscallen</A> ; <A title=philosopher.joe@gmail.com 
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</A> ; <A 
title=suehovey@moscow.com href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com 
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Statesman weighs in on 
ISU</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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      <DIV>Sue,</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>To the contrary, Sue, I am amazed at what some government employees 
      are able to do with so few resources here in Idaho. Most people that work 
      in the government are underpaid. But this is not the case for many 
      administrators and professors in our region who are paid often twice what 
      they are worth.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Elementary teachers, in general, and especially in Idaho, are the 
      most underpaid people for what they do, the crap they put up with, and the 
      amount of education they have acquired, and the value of their work. Two 
      of my best friends are teachers. </DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>You don't have to preach to me how underpaid people are working with 
      people with disabilities, I grew in a family that did just that. My job 
      almost every morning is to take care of six people with 
disabilities.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>I hope everything is going well in Hawaii, especially with that US 
      Rep of yours : P. </DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Donovan Arnold<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 2/24/11, Sue Hovey 
      <I>&lt;suehovey@moscow.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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        Sue <SPAN><SPAN>Hovey</SPAN></SPAN> 
        &lt;suehovey@moscow.com&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Statesman 
        weighs in on <SPAN>ISU</SPAN><BR>To: "Donovan Arnold" 
        &lt;donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com&gt;, "Dan Carscallen" 
        &lt;areaman@moscow.com&gt;, "Joe Campbell" 
        &lt;philosopher.joe@gmail.com&gt;<BR>Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" 
        &lt;vision2020@moscow.com&gt;<BR>Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 2:08 
        PM<BR><BR>
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        <DIV><FONT size=4>Donovan, </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=4>And, of course, this flip statement reflects your 
        assumption that by nature government employees aren’t productive and 
        should in every instance be able to do more.&nbsp; I tell you, Donovan, 
        the people who work with my disabled daughter are underpaid, overworked, 
        and are being forced into situations for which they are 
        unprepared.&nbsp; And even so, in a few months almost 1/3rd or more may 
        well be jobless.&nbsp; It’s nice to have you back online again, but in 
        this case you really do know better. You’ve&nbsp; been 
        there.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=4>Even in the private sector getting along to hold a job 
        may well mean compromising ones ethics, harming other folks, not 
        standing up in the face of grave error.&nbsp; That’s what those ISU 
        folks were trying to oppose. Even if you disagree with their intent your 
        casting them as lazy and unproductive ignores the issue.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=4>Sue H. </FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com 
        href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" 
        rel=nofollow target=_blank 
        ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
        <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:2</DIV>
        <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=areaman@moscow.com 
        href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=areaman@moscow.com" 
        rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">Dan 
        Carscallen</A> ; <A title=philosopher.joe@gmail.com 
        href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=philosopher.joe@gmail.com" 
        rel=nofollow target=_blank 
        ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</A> </DIV>
        <DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com 
        href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" 
        rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow 
        Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
        <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Statesman weighs in on 
        ISU</DIV></DIV></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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              <DIV>The SBOE should just fire everyone if it wishes to start 
              fresh. Kind of hard to do that if they keep the same President 
              which is half the problem. Maybe if government employees knew, 
              like the rest of us in the private sector, that if they cannot get 
              along and be productive they will be out of a job, they would try 
              harder to get things done.</DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV>Donovan Arnold<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 2/22/11, Joe Campbell 
              <I>&lt;philosopher.joe@gmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
              <BLOCKQUOTE 
              style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: 
                Joe Campbell &lt;philosopher.joe@gmail.com&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: 
                [Vision2020] Statesman weighs in on ISU<BR>To: "Dan Carscallen" 
                &lt;areaman@moscow.com&gt;<BR>Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" 
                &lt;vision2020@moscow.com&gt;<BR>Date: Tuesday, February 22, 
                2011, 9:59 PM<BR><BR>
                <DIV id=yiv1965286935>Oops! I feel a bit like Roseanne 
                <SPAN>Roseannadana</SPAN>. Nevermind!<SPAN 
                id=yiv1965286935q_12e512bf4d448593_1 
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                <DIV class=yiv1965286935gmail_quote>On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 6:24 
                PM, Dan Carscallen <SPAN dir=ltr>&lt;<A 
                href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=areaman@moscow.com" 
                rel=nofollow target=_blank>areaman@moscow.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> 
                wrote:<BR>
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                  <DIV>Joe, </DIV>
                  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV>Did you read the editorial? From what I gather, they 
                  agree with you<BR><FONT color=#888888><BR>DC</FONT></DIV>
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                  <DIV></DIV>
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                  <DIV><BR>On Feb 22, 2011, at 17:58, Joe Campbell &lt;<A 
                  href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=philosopher.joe@gmail.com" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank>philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A>&gt; 
                  wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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                    <DIV>Great advice! Maybe they should just shut up and stick 
                    to the news!<BR><BR>
                    <DIV class=yiv1965286935gmail_quote>On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 
                    10:00 AM, Ron Force <SPAN dir=ltr>&lt;<A 
                    href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rforce2003@yahoo.com" 
                    rel=nofollow 
                    target=_blank>rforce2003@yahoo.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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                      <H3>February 22, 2011</H3>
                      <H1>Our View: Memo to ISU faculty: Just shut up and 
                      teach</H1>
                      <H2>- Idaho Statesman</H2>Seventy-six percent of Idaho 
                      State University’s faculty senators have a problem with 
                      Arthur Vailas. Earlier this month, they cast a 
                      no-confidence vote and urged their embattled president to 
                      step down. 
                      <DIV>And 100 percent of State Board of Education members 
                      have a problem with the ISU faculty Senate. On Thursday, 
                      the board voted unanimously to disband the Senate — at 
                      Vailas’ urging.</DIV>
                      <DIV>Well, that’s one way to try to make a crisis 
                      disappear. Who needs allies on campus when you have a 
                      compliant State Board in your pocket?</DIV>
                      <DIV>The message, for faculty and staff at ISU and other 
                      campuses, could hardly be more clear. If you have a 
                      complaint or a criticism, the State Board doesn’t want to 
                      hear from you or help solve problems.</DIV>
                      <DIV>Of course, that’s not how the board spins it. “The 
                      impasse between the leadership of the senate group and the 
                      administration has reached a point where the prospect of 
                      any kind of progress was simply non-existent,” board 
                      President Richard Westerberg said. “It’s time to start 
                      over.”</DIV>
                      <DIV>Starting over? Sure. But only after the board made 
                      sure to give Vailas all the leverage, and marginalize his 
                      faculty critics.</DIV>
                      <DIV>Oh, there will still be a place for the faculty to 
                      have a say. Just on Vailas’ terms. The board ordered 
                      Vailas to set up an interim advisory structure and come 
                      back in April and propose what the board calls a 
                      “reconstituted faculty Senate and a new faculty governance 
                      model.”</DIV>
                      <DIV>How’s that for even-handed?</DIV>
                      <DIV>It’s remarkable that the State Board chose to choose 
                      sides, especially at this advanced stage of unrest. </DIV>
                      <DIV>Vailas has been on the job since 2006, providing 
                      ample time for tensions to degenerate into grudges. The 
                      problems aren’t likely to just go away. It’s naive for the 
                      State Board to act as if that’s even a possibility.</DIV>
                      <DIV>Faculty members have aired some serious issues that 
                      warrant more active attention from the State Board — 
                      including complaints of closed-door budget decisions and 
                      high staff turnover.</DIV>
                      <DIV>These concerns should resonate under any 
                      circumstances — and especially during a funding crisis 
                      that requires university leaders to make tough budget 
                      decisions, explain policy publicly and clearly and get and 
                      keep buy-in from key faculty and staff.</DIV>
                      <DIV>“Sometimes we have to stand up and make our voices 
                      heard,” said ISU Faculty Senate chairman Phil Cole, 
                      according to the Associated Press. “The internal strife at 
                      ISU is killing ISU.”</DIV>
                      <DIV>Turns out Cole was worried over nothing. The State 
                      Board of Education has a foolproof plan for handling 
                      “internal strife.” Just tell all the naysayers to shut 
                      up.</DIV>“Our View” is the editorial position of the Idaho 
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