Kai,<br><br>Give me a break. Is the idea that all democrats are communists a viable opinion? Can I say whatever stupid and insulting thing I want and get away with it by claiming it is my opinion? All I know is when I see the weekly rankings for top "news" programs, Beck always makes the list! I'm pretty sure MOST of the listeners regard it as news, not opinion.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Kai Eiselein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<br> Just a point, Joe: Rush & Beck espouse opinions, they are not journalists. I'm really suprised that someone with your level of education would confuse the two.<br>
In essence, what they do is no different than football analysts expressing their views each Sunday during the season, or what one reads on the editorial pages of a newspaper.<br>
Another point, when I've yelled at NPR (most often while driving) it hasn't been because of "lies", but because of omissions. What is omitted can be every bit as important as what isn't, and can change the tenor of a story very easily.<br>
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:09:19 -0800<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Journalist my ass<br>From: <a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" target="_blank">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com" target="_blank">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a><br>
CC: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><br>But are there any liberal/progressive journalists who have the kind of wild views of Rush and Beck, e.g., that democrats are communists? I don't think so. Again, you can find bias anywhere. You just find MORE of it on Fox than anywhere else.<br>
<br>If you or anyone denies this, I offer a challenge. I've done it before but no one has taken me up on it. Pick your idea of a biased liberal radio or TV show and we'll listen to it counting the lies and fallacies along the way. Then we'll turn on Fox for an hour and do the same.<br>
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<div>On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Kai Eiselein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com" target="_blank">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>I watched Fox news once several years ago and found it less than stellar, in my opinion. I've also found myself yelling at the radio while listening to NPR present biased news and I remember Katie Couric soft tossing questions to President Clinton while giggling like a 12 year old. Of course when Couric interviewed Condoleezza Rice, she was a hard ass.<br>
<br>> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:10:30 -0800<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Journalist my ass<br>> From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>> To: <a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com" target="_blank">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
> <br>> Kai Eiselein informs us:<br>> <br>> "Real journalists seek the truth with no preconcieved notions and report<br>> facts without personal opinion."<br>> <br>> Then, Mr. Eiselein, we are in agreement. Fox News does not employ "real<br>
> journalists" by your definition.<br>> <br>> Is this correct?<br>> <br>> Before you answer, I will concede what is clearly obvious . . .<br>> <br>> Keith Olbermann, Dr. Rachel Maddow (She does have a PhD in Poli Sci), and<br>
> Ed Schultz are NOT journalists. They are Op/Ed personalities and have<br>> NEVER claimed to be news sources.<br>> <br>> On the other hand, Fox "News" . . .<br>> <br>> Your thoughts, Mr. Eiselein?<br>
> <br>> Tom Hansen<br>> Moscow, Idaho<br>> <br>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change<br>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."<br>> <br>> - Unknown<br>
> <br>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change<br>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."<br>> <br>> - Unknown<br>> <br>> <br></div><br>=======================================================<br>
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