I am denying knowledge of your denying knowledge about this.  And, you are on double secret probation, Joe!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Joe Campbell <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I&#39;m denying that I even read this. </div><div><br></div><div>If I need to deny my own existence in order to stay &quot;clean&quot; I&#39;ll do it. </div>
<div><br></div><div>&quot;Then who wrote this?,&quot; you might ask. Exactly!<br><br><br></div><div><br>On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Dave &lt;<a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com" target="_blank">tiedye@turbonet.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

    The US Chamber is now denying any knowledge of Team Themis&#39;
    actions.  And the other two members of the now defunct team are also
    denying and disavowing. <br>
    <br>
    Dave<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 02/15/2011 08:51 AM, Darrell Keim wrote:
    <blockquote type="cite">I can&#39;t be certain, but I suspect they would tell you
      that they aren&#39;t members of the US Chamber.  Not all Chambers are.
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>They became members when I was there, but were looking at
        discontinuing.  <br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Sue
          Hovey <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">suehovey@moscow.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">
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                  <div><font size="4">I don’t know who the local Chamber
                      president is now, but it might be worth while to
                      ask for a response.</font></div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div><font size="4">Sue h. </font></div>
                  <div style="font-style:normal;display:inline;font-family:&#39;Calibri&#39;;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:small;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none">
                    <div style="font:10pt tahoma">
                      <div> </div>
                      <div style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(245, 245, 245)">
                        <div><b>From:</b> <a title="rforce2003@yahoo.com" href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank">Ron Force</a> </div>
                        <div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 13, 2011 4:55
                          PM</div>
                        <div><b>To:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </div>
                        <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] US
                          Chamber’s Lobbyists Solicited Hackers To
                          Sabotage Unions, Smear Chamber’s Political
                          Opponents</div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div> </div>
                  </div>
                  <div style="font-style:normal;display:inline;font-family:&#39;Calibri&#39;;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:small;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none">
                    <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">The average
                      working stiff never hears of it. Go to the news
                      sites for CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox--not a peep.<br>
                      <div> </div>
                      Ron Force<br>
                      Moscow Idaho USA
                      <div> </div>
                      <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
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                        <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">
                            <hr size="1">
                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b>
                            Joe Campbell &lt;<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" target="_blank">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                            Dave &lt;<a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com" target="_blank">tiedye@turbonet.com</a>&gt;<br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
                            vision2020 &lt;<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>&gt;<br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                            Sun, February 13, 2011 6:12:59 PM<br>
                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                            Re: [Vision2020] US Chamber’s Lobbyists
                            Solicited Hackers To Sabotage Unions, Smear
                            Chamber’s Political Opponents<br>
                          </font><br>
                          <div>Can someone tell me why the average
                            working stiff is unimpressed by this sort of
                            news?<br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                            On Feb 13, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Dave &lt;<a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com" target="_blank">tiedye@turbonet.com</a>&gt;
                            wrote:<br>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote type="cite">
                            <div><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/10/lobbyists-chamberleaks/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/10/lobbyists-chamberleaks/" target="_blank">http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/10/lobbyists-chamberleaks/</a><br>

                              <br>
                              Anyone from the local chamber care to
                              comment?<br>
                              <br>
                              Dave<br>
                              <br>
                              <blockquote type="cite">
                                <h2><a title="Permanent link to &#39;EXCLUSIVE:
                                    US Chamber’s Lobbyists Solicited
                                    Hackers To Sabotage Unions, Smear
                                    Chamber’s Political Opponents&#39;" href="http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/10/lobbyists-chamberleaks/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">EXCLUSIVE:
                                    US Chamber’s Lobbyists Solicited
                                    Hackers To Sabotage Unions, Smear
                                    Chamber’s Political Opponents </a></h2>
                                <p>ThinkProgress has learned that a law
                                  firm representing the U.S. Chamber of
                                  Commerce, the big business trade
                                  association representing ExxonMobil,
                                  AIG, and other major international
                                  corporations, is working with set of
                                  “private security” companies and
                                  lobbying firms to undermine their
                                  political opponents, including
                                  ThinkProgress, with a surreptitious
                                  sabotage campaign. </p>
                                <p>According to e-mails obtained by
                                  ThinkProgress, the Chamber hired the
                                  lobbying firm Hunton and Williams.
                                  Hunton And Williams’ attorney Richard
                                  Wyatt, who <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/19/chamber-of-commerce-still_n_768076.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">once</a>
                                  represented Food Lion in its infamous
                                  lawsuit against ABC News, was <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/19/chamber-of-commerce-still_n_768076.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">hired</a>
                                  by the Chamber in October of last
                                  year. To assist the Chamber, Wyatt and
                                  his <a href="http://images2.americanprogress.org/ThinkProgress/johnwoodsagreeingthemis.PNG" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">associates</a>,
                                  John Woods and Bob Quackenboss,
                                  solicited a set of private security
                                  firms — HBGary Federal, Palantir, and
                                  Berico Technologies (collectively
                                  called Team Themis) — to develop
                                  tactics for damaging progressive
                                  groups and labor unions, in particular
                                  ThinkProgress, the labor coalition
                                  called Change to Win, the SEIU, US
                                  Chamber Watch, and <a href="http://StopTheChamber.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://StopTheChamber.com" target="_blank">StopTheChamber.com</a>.
                                </p>
                                <p>According to one <a href="http://images2.americanprogress.org/ThinkProgress/ProposalForTheChamber.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">document</a>
                                  prepared by Team Themis, the campaign
                                  included an entrapment project. The
                                  proposal called for first creating a
                                  “false document, perhaps highlighting
                                  periodical financial information,” to
                                  give to a progressive group opposing
                                  the Chamber, and then to subsequently
                                  expose the document as a fake to
                                  undermine the credibility of the
                                  Chamber’s opponents. In addition, the
                                  group proposed creating a “fake
                                  insider persona” to “generate
                                  communications” with Change to Win.
                                  View a screenshot below: </p>
                                <center><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/screenshotfixed.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">&lt;screenshotfixed.jpg&gt;</a></center>
                                <p>The security firms hoped to obtain <a href="http://images2.americanprogress.org/ThinkProgress/themisplan.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">$200,000</a>
                                  for initial background research, then
                                  charge up to <a href="http://images2.americanprogress.org/ThinkProgress/themisplan.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">$2
                                    million</a> for a larger
                                  disinformation campaign against
                                  progressives. We don’t know if the
                                  proposal was accepted after Phase 1
                                  was completed.</p>
                                <p>The e-mails ThinkProgress acquired
                                  are available widely on the web. They
                                  were posted by members of “<a href="http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201106/6798/Data-intelligence-firms-proposed-a-systematic-attack-against-WikiLeaks" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Anonymous</a>,”
                                  the hactivist community responsible
                                  for taking down websites for
                                  oppressive regimes in Tunisia, Egypt,
                                  and American corporations that have
                                  censored WikiLeaks. Anonymous
                                  published the emails from HBGary
                                  Federal because an executive at the
                                  firm, Aaron Barr, was trying to take
                                  Anonymous down. Barr <a href="http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/Cyberactivists-warned-arrest-ftimes-3487898538.html?x=0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">claimed</a>
                                  that he had penetrated Anonymous and
                                  was hoping to sell the data to Bank of
                                  America and to federal authorities in
                                  the United States. In response,
                                  members of Anonymous hacked into
                                  Barr’s email and published some <a href="http://gawker.com/#%215753570/anonymous-hackers-pay-back-fbi-snitch-with-50000-leaked-emails" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">40,000</a>
                                  company e-mails.</p>
                                <p>It is widely believed that Wikileaks
                                  has sensitive information about Bank
                                  of America, and plans to expose it
                                  later this year. This revelation
                                  prompted Bank of America to hire the
                                  law/lobbying firm Hunton and Williams,
                                  which in turn, according to the
                                  e-mails posted online by Anonymous,
                                  hired HBGary Federal and other firms
                                  to go after Anonymous and supporters
                                  of Wikileaks. For instance, one
                                  proposal from HBGary Federal and its
                                  associates proposed targeting Salon
                                  reporter and Wikileaks-supporter Glenn
                                  Greenwald with “<a href="http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2011/02/09/the-disinformation-campaign-bank-of-america-considered/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">actions
                                    to sabotage</a> or discredit” him. </p>
                                <p>ThinkProgress has published a series
                                  of articles investigating the Chamber
                                  and its activities. We <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/24/stealth-chamber-banks/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">exposed</a>
                                  the Chamber’s efforts to coordinate a
                                  lobbying campaign on behalf of large
                                  banks, including JP Morgan, to kill
                                  significant portions of financial
                                  reform. In October, we <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/13/chamber-foreign-funded-media/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">published</a>
                                  a <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/05/foreign-chamber-commerce/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">series</a>
                                  looking into the Chamber’s efforts to
                                  solicit donations from foreign
                                  corporations for the same account the
                                  Chamber used to run partisan attack
                                  ads during the midterm campaign, as
                                  well as the Chamber’s <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/20/beck-koch-chamber-meeting/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">participation</a>
                                  in secret fundraising meetings
                                  convened by the billionaire plutocrats
                                  David and Charles Koch. </p>
                                <p>ThinkProgress will be posting more
                                  details of the Chamber lobbyist
                                  campaign to target progressives soon.</p>
                                <p>– With reporting from Scott Keyes</p>
                              </blockquote>
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