<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Good point BUT do they not know because mainstream media won't print the story?&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Or does mainstream media not print the story because no one cares?</div><div><br></div><div><br>On Feb 13, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Ron Force &lt;<a href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">The average working stiff never hears of it. Go to the news sites for CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox--not a peep.<br><div>&nbsp;</div>Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA<div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Joe Campbell &lt;<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Dave &lt;<a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com">tiedye@turbonet.com</a>&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> vision2020 &lt;<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, February 13, 2011 6:12:59 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
 [Vision2020] US Chamber’s Lobbyists Solicited Hackers To Sabotage Unions, Smear Chamber’s Political Opponents<br></font><br>
<div>Can someone tell me why the average working stiff is unimpressed by this sort of news?<br><br><br></div><div><br>On Feb 13, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Dave &lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com"><a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com">tiedye@turbonet.com</a></a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

    <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/10/lobbyists-chamberleaks/"><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/10/lobbyists-chamberleaks/">http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/10/lobbyists-chamberleaks/</a></a><br>
    <br>
    Anyone from the local chamber care to comment?<br>
    <br>
    Dave<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <h2 class="title"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/10/lobbyists-chamberleaks/" title="Permanent link to 'EXCLUSIVE: US
          Chamber’s Lobbyists Solicited Hackers To Sabotage Unions,
          Smear Chamber’s Political Opponents'">EXCLUSIVE: US Chamber’s
          Lobbyists Solicited Hackers To Sabotage Unions, Smear
          Chamber’s Political Opponents </a></h2>
      <p>ThinkProgress has learned that a law firm representing the U.S.
        Chamber of Commerce, the big business trade association
        representing ExxonMobil, AIG, and other major international
        corporations, is working with set of “private security”
        companies and lobbying firms to undermine their political
        opponents, including ThinkProgress, with a surreptitious
        sabotage campaign. </p>
      <p>According to e-mails obtained by ThinkProgress, the Chamber
        hired the lobbying firm Hunton and Williams. Hunton And
        Williams’ attorney Richard Wyatt, who <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/19/chamber-of-commerce-still_n_768076.html">once</a>
        represented Food Lion in its infamous lawsuit against ABC News,
        was <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/19/chamber-of-commerce-still_n_768076.html">hired</a>
        by the Chamber in October of last year. To assist the Chamber,
        Wyatt and his <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://images2.americanprogress.org/ThinkProgress/johnwoodsagreeingthemis.PNG">associates</a>,
        John Woods and Bob Quackenboss, solicited a set of private
        security firms — HBGary Federal, Palantir, and Berico
        Technologies (collectively called Team Themis) — to develop
        tactics for damaging progressive groups and labor unions, in
        particular ThinkProgress, the labor coalition called Change to
        Win, the SEIU, US Chamber Watch, and <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://StopTheChamber.com"><a href="http://StopTheChamber.com">StopTheChamber.com</a></a>. </p>
      <p>According to one <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://images2.americanprogress.org/ThinkProgress/ProposalForTheChamber.pdf">document</a>
        prepared by Team Themis, the campaign included an entrapment
        project. The proposal called for first creating a “false
        document, perhaps highlighting periodical financial
        information,” to give to a progressive group opposing the
        Chamber, and then to subsequently expose the document as a fake
        to undermine the credibility of the Chamber’s opponents. In
        addition, the group proposed creating a “fake insider persona”
        to “generate communications” with Change to Win. View a
        screenshot below: </p>
      <center><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/screenshotfixed.jpg">&lt;screenshotfixed.jpg&gt;</a></center>
      <p>The security firms hoped to obtain <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://images2.americanprogress.org/ThinkProgress/themisplan.pdf">$200,000</a>
        for initial background research, then charge up to <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://images2.americanprogress.org/ThinkProgress/themisplan.pdf">$2
          million</a> for a larger disinformation campaign against
        progressives. We don’t know if the proposal was accepted after
        Phase 1 was completed.</p>
      <p>The e-mails ThinkProgress acquired are available widely on the
        web. They were posted by members of “<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201106/6798/Data-intelligence-firms-proposed-a-systematic-attack-against-WikiLeaks">Anonymous</a>,”

        the hactivist community responsible for taking down websites for
        oppressive regimes in Tunisia, Egypt, and American corporations
        that have censored WikiLeaks. Anonymous published the emails
        from HBGary Federal because an executive at the firm, Aaron
        Barr, was trying to take Anonymous down. Barr <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/Cyberactivists-warned-arrest-ftimes-3487898538.html?x=0">claimed</a>
        that he had penetrated Anonymous and was hoping to sell the data
        to Bank of America and to federal authorities in the United
        States. In response, members of Anonymous hacked into Barr’s
        email and published some <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://gawker.com/#%215753570/anonymous-hackers-pay-back-fbi-snitch-with-50000-leaked-emails">40,000</a>
        company e-mails.</p>
      <p>It is widely believed that Wikileaks has sensitive information
        about Bank of America, and plans to expose it later this year.
        This revelation prompted Bank of America to hire the
        law/lobbying firm Hunton and Williams, which in turn, according
        to the e-mails posted online by Anonymous, hired HBGary Federal
        and other firms to go after Anonymous and supporters of
        Wikileaks. For instance, one proposal from HBGary Federal and
        its associates proposed targeting Salon reporter and
        Wikileaks-supporter Glenn Greenwald with “<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2011/02/09/the-disinformation-campaign-bank-of-america-considered/">actions
          to sabotage</a> or discredit” him. </p>
      <p>ThinkProgress has published a series of articles investigating
        the Chamber and its activities. We <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/24/stealth-chamber-banks/">exposed</a>
        the Chamber’s efforts to coordinate a lobbying campaign on
        behalf of large banks, including JP Morgan, to kill significant
        portions of financial reform. In October, we <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/13/chamber-foreign-funded-media/">published</a>
        a <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/05/foreign-chamber-commerce/">series</a>
        looking into the Chamber’s efforts to solicit donations from
        foreign corporations for the same account the Chamber used to
        run partisan attack ads during the midterm campaign, as well as
        the Chamber’s <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/20/beck-koch-chamber-meeting/">participation</a>
        in secret fundraising meetings convened by the billionaire
        plutocrats David and Charles Koch. </p>
      <p>ThinkProgress will be posting more details of the Chamber
        lobbyist campaign to target progressives soon.</p>
      <p>– With reporting from Scott Keyes</p>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature">-- <br>Windows, OSX, or Linux is the same choice as:<br>McDonald's, Burger King, or a (real) Co-Op.<br></pre>
  

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