Do businesses have to pay for parking lots or anything associated with their car customers? What about disability access? Is that paid for by the city or the business? Anyone know?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Bill London <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:london@moscow.com">london@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>As I understand the ordinance now before the Council, bike racks will be
required only on NEW OR EXPANDED apartment buildings or businesses. In
other words, the ordinance would alter the standards Moscow sets for changes to
the city and its amenities.</div>
<div>I doubt that you would like to eliminate all standards, so the question
becomes: what standards are appropriate now and what criteria are appropriate
now?</div>
<div>Requiring bike racks encourages bike use, increased bike use is an
excellent strategy to meet national (as well as city) goals in traffic control,
obesity targets, lessening reliance on foreign oil, etc. In sum, a more
livable town. That’s a reasonable standard.</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com" target="_blank">Gary Crabtree</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 05, 2011 4:14 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="dickow@uidaho.edu" href="mailto:dickow@uidaho.edu" target="_blank">Robert Dickow</a> ; <a title="lockshop@pull.twcbc.com" href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com" target="_blank">'the
lockshop'</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </div><div class="im">
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us" href="mailto:wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us</a> ; <a title="tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us" href="mailto:tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us</a> ; <a title="wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us" href="mailto:wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us</a> ; <a title="sscott@ci.moscow.id.us" href="mailto:sscott@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">sscott@ci.moscow.id.us</a> ; <a title="nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us" href="mailto:nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us</a> ; <a title="dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us" href="mailto:dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us</a> ; <a title="tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us" href="mailto:tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us</a> </div>
</div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] deluxe parking accommodations for
some-payedforby others</div></div></div>
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<div><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">That being the case, why not leave it up
to the individual business to make the decision<br>to woo you and your bulging
wallet in by providing hermetically sealed, air conditioned, gem encrusted bike
accommodations?</font></div>
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<div><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">Should the city, with its unerring eye for
economic bounty, decide to dip into its coffers and build a bike rack on every
corner of every block taxpayers would howl and rightly so.</font></div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">Even though such a scheme would have the
ultimate beneficiaries paying at least a portion of the cost and result in a
similar number or parking slots, voters would see it for the wasteful boondoggle
that it is. Forcing the expense off onto private property owners doesn't make it
any better.</font></div>
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<div><br><br>g<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br>From:
"Robert Dickow" <<a href="mailto:dickow@uidaho.edu" target="_blank">dickow@uidaho.edu</a>><br>Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011
1:05 PM<br>To: "'the lockshop'" <<a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com" target="_blank">lockshop@pull.twcbc.com</a>>;
<<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br>Cc: <<a href="mailto:dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us</a>>;
<<a href="mailto:tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us</a>>; <<a href="mailto:wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us</a>>;
<<a href="mailto:sscott@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">sscott@ci.moscow.id.us</a>>; <<a href="mailto:nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us</a>>;
<<a href="mailto:wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us</a>>; <<a href="mailto:tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us</a>><br>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] deluxe parking accommodations for some-paid for by
others<br><br>> Curiously, Instead of 'government intrusion into business' I
thought it was<br>> quite the opposite. I thought the bike parking issue was
for the benefit of<br>> the business, not the bikers. Heck, if I knew I could
tie my bike up in such<br>> a parking facility I would do 100% of my shopping
downtown by bike. Usually<br>> in the past I would tie my bike to a tree or
post, lacking other handy<br>> facilities, and discover that my lock chain
didn't fit around the tree...<br>> blah blah blah, so there was a
disincentive. Businesses... think of the<br>> growth of business in
town!<br>> <br>> Bob Dickow, troublemaker<br>> <br>> -----Original
Message-----<br>> From: <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]<br>> On Behalf Of the lockshop<br>>
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:39 AM<br>> To:
<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>> Cc: <a href="mailto:wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">wkrauss@ci.moscow.id.us</a>;
<a href="mailto:tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">tbrown@ci.moscow.id.us</a>;<br>> <a href="mailto:wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">wmsteed@ci.moscow.id.us</a>; <a href="mailto:sscott@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">sscott@ci.moscow.id.us</a>;
<a href="mailto:nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us</a>;<br>> <a href="mailto:dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">dcarscallen@ci.moscow.id.us</a>;
<a href="mailto:tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">tlamar@ci.moscow.id.us</a><br>> Subject: [Vision2020] deluxe parking
accommodations for some-paid for by<br>> others<br>> <br>> Does anyone
other then myself wonder why the city in its infinite wisdom <br>> doesn't
spend a little more time worrying about city property and assets and<br>>
<br>> a little less time trying to dream up ways to inflict itself on private
<br>> property owners, developers, and businesses? I'm speaking of course
about <br>> the councils latest intrusion into the lives of its business
community, the <br>> proposed bike parking ordnance. <snip>...<br>>
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