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Chris, let me get this straight.<BR>
You took a demotion to stay employed.<BR>
You are facing a 5% pay cut.<BR>
You still have a job.<BR>
Try this:<BR>
Work for years to purchase a business in an industry you love.<BR>
You finally purchase the business of your dreams.<BR>
The economy tanks two months after you purchase said business.<BR>
Eleven months later you close the doors after watching your dreams turn to dust in front of your eyes.<BR>
You walk away unemployed, $100K in debt with nothing to show for it and begin trying to figure out how to get yourself out of this hole.<BR>
<BR>
And you are worried about 5 effin percent.<BR>
Three words: Kiss my a$$<BR> <BR>
> From: vision2020-request@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 56, Issue 15<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:54:33 -0800<BR>> <BR>> Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to<BR>> vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020<BR>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>> vision2020-request@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>> vision2020-owner@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Today's Topics:<BR>> <BR>> 1. Re: A proposal to balance the budget (lfalen)<BR>> 2. picture non-political (lfalen)<BR>> 3. Bellevue, WA: 52.3 F; Moscow, ID: 28.8 F (Kenneth Marcy)<BR>> 4. Re: Bellevue, WA: 52.3 F; Moscow, ID: 28.8 F (Ron Force)<BR>> 5. Re: Bellevue, WA: 52.3 F; Moscow, ID: 28.8 F (Carl Westberg)<BR>> 6. Senate Democrats Block GOP Bid to Repeal Health Care Law<BR>> (Tom Hansen)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 1<BR>> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 12:01:53 -0800<BR>> From: lfalen <lfalen@turbonet.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A proposal to balance the budget<BR>> To: bear@moscow.com<BR>> Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Message-ID: <f4750eea6e468415dd48b8b1161cc901@turbonet.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> My wife also took a furlough last year and offered to take one again this year. She does not have any option. If her boss does not have a grant, she is cut.<BR>> Roger<BR>> <BR>> ----Original message-----<BR>> From: bear@moscow.com<BR>> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 18:50:22 -0800<BR>> To: "lfalen" lfalen@turbonet.com<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A proposal to balance the budget<BR>> <BR>> > <BR>> > Roger,<BR>> > <BR>> > As someone who has had to face the cuts imposed by CALS, I find your<BR>> > suggestions a but short sighted. I did not have science or research in my<BR>> > title and have over 8 years of seniority but I still was laid off by the<BR>> > College and to retain employment and benefits was forced to take a<BR>> > demotion. I was also one of the few people in CALS that had to take<BR>> > furlough days last year. Yet you suggest I should be willing and even<BR>> > happy to accept a 5% cut! While I feel for the people who now have to be<BR>> > paid via grant funding via the PI, the fact remains that is an option for<BR>> > them. Why shouldn't the extension offices as state and federal employees<BR>> > take the same cuts that have been imposed by the Gov. as the on campus<BR>> > departments and offices have had to absorb?<BR>> > <BR>> > All I am saying is that the problem is more complex than everyone take a<BR>> > 5% cut across the board.<BR>> > <BR>> > Chris Price<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > > Here are some proposals to balance Federal, State and University Budgets<BR>> > > .<BR>> > > First I would take care of the mentally ill, the disabled and our<BR>> > > veterans.<BR>> > > All government employees (state and Federal) should take a 5% pay cut. The<BR>> > > private sector has taken cuts(except for Wall Street and a few others).<BR>> > > This should start with all Federal legislators. State legislators are not<BR>> > > paid that much in Idaho.<BR>> > > The University could easily balance their budget by doing so. Instead they<BR>> > > are making cuts at the low end. Cals is making the cuts on those staff<BR>> > > that have science or research in their title. This is a highly arbitrary<BR>> > > way to do it and is not based on merit or seniority. The PI that they<BR>> > > work for will have to come up with half their salary from other sources<BR>> > > such as grants. My wife has been cut to 87.5%. She is now paid for 7 hours<BR>> > > but still puts in about 12 hours a day. In june she will probably be cut<BR>> > > to half time. This means that her benefits will no longer be picked up by<BR>> > > the University. One can not afford to work for that, She has worked for<BR>> > > the UI for over 40 years. She has 3 more years to go before reaching SS<BR>> > > retirement age.<BR>> > > An across the board 5% cut would not hurt anyone that much and it would<BR>> > > easier to save the desired dollars than cutting some staff by 80 or 50%<BR>> > > The UI has opened up 4 offices in China to recruit students. Why? The UI<BR>> > > is a land grant college. They should take care of their base first.<BR>> > > Recruit in China when times are better.<BR>> > > Other ways to save money. Review all government agencies for ways they<BR>> > > can be reduced. All agencies should come with a sunset. If after a set<BR>> > > period of time they would need to be re-evaluated and authorised. If the<BR>> > > wern't they would go out of existence. All lawmakers should be on the same<BR>> > > benefits that they legislate for the rest of us.<BR>> > > All cuts in pay or personnel should start at the top. The UI like most<BR>> > > other government agencies have greatly expanded at the administrative<BR>> > > level. That is where the cuts should start. Diversity is important, but<BR>> > > the UI does nt need in excess of 20 people to handle it. There should be<BR>> > > on director and an assistant. They can then work with someone in the<BR>> > > individual departments or colleges.<BR>> > > If Administrators were trimmed back at the Federal, State and University<BR>> > > level more programs and jobs could be save on balance.<BR>> > > Help the handicapped fine jobs. When I was with Carnation and Manna Pro<BR>> > > our Small World line of Wild bird seeds were packaged by handicapped<BR>> > > people.<BR>> > > These are only a few things that can be done to balance the budget and at<BR>> > > the same time save valuable programs such as aid for the mentally ill.<BR>> > > Roger<BR>> > ><BR>> > > =======================================================<BR>> > > List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>> > > http://www.fsr.net<BR>> > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > > =======================================================<BR>> > ><BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 2<BR>> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 12:37:09 -0800<BR>> From: lfalen <lfalen@turbonet.com><BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] picture non-political<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Message-ID: <f8e72a889022aa6284529e8b24b40737@turbonet.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR>> <BR>> Maynard Fosberg's horse,( Tucker) made the front page of today's Daily News.<BR>> <BR>> Roger<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 3<BR>> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:18:13 -0800<BR>> From: Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1@frontier.com><BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] Bellevue, WA: 52.3 F; Moscow, ID: 28.8 F<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Message-ID: <201102021418.14015.kmmos1@frontier.com><BR>> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR>> <BR>> Temperature (Fahrenheit):<BR>> Bellevue, WA: 52.3; Moscow, ID: 28.8<BR>> Updated: 1:21 PM PST on February 02, 2011<BR>> <BR>> Elevation above mean sea level (feet):<BR>> Bellevue, WA: 300; Moscow, ID: 2650<BR>> <BR>> Atmospheric blanket assists temperature stability.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Ken<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 4<BR>> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:17:58 -0800 (PST)<BR>> From: Ron Force <rforce2003@yahoo.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bellevue, WA: 52.3 F; Moscow, ID: 28.8 F<BR>> To: Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1@frontier.com>, vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Message-ID: <776999.87710.qm@web46114.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR>> <BR>> So does a large body of water...<BR>> <BR>> Ron Force<BR>> Moscow Idaho USA<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ________________________________<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Atmospheric blanket assists temperature stability.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Ken<BR>> <BR>> =<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20110202/d1b89f00/attachment-0001.html <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 5<BR>> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:54:24 -0800<BR>> From: Carl Westberg <idahovandal1@live.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bellevue, WA: 52.3 F; Moscow, ID: 28.8 F<BR>> To: <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> Message-ID: <SNT105-W303447164AAFC4DE134796E9E40@phx.gbl><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> So Paradise Creek doesn't count? I mean there are times you can almost see water in it.<BR>> <BR>> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:17:58 -0800<BR>> From: rforce2003@yahoo.com<BR>> To: kmmos1@frontier.com; vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bellevue, WA: 52.3 F; Moscow, ID: 28.8 F<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> So does a large body of water...<BR>> Ron Force<BR>> Moscow Idaho USA<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Atmospheric blanket assists temperature stability.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Ken<BR>> <BR>> =<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =======================================================<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>> http://www.fsr.net <BR>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> ======================================================= <BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20110202/40af6f4e/attachment-0001.html <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 6<BR>> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:54:33 -0800 (PST)<BR>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] Senate Democrats Block GOP Bid to Repeal Health<BR>> Care Law<BR>> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> Message-ID: <0295caa7e15c1a13f71f08c1785996e3.squirrel@secure.fsr.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1<BR>> <BR>> Courtesy of CNN at:<BR>> <BR>> http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/02/02/senate.health.care/index.html<BR>> <BR>> ---------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Senate Democrats block GOP bid to repeal health care law<BR>> Washington (CNN) -- Senate Democrats on Wednesday blocked a Republican<BR>> effort to repeal the health care reform bill passed last year.<BR>> <BR>> The 51-47 vote, along party lines, meant the procedural motion failed to<BR>> get the necessary 60 votes to pass.<BR>> <BR>> The Republican-controlled House of Representatives has passed a bill to<BR>> repeal the health care overhaul. However, Democrats used their majority in<BR>> the Senate to block a similar measure proposed by the Republican minority<BR>> as an amendment to another bill.<BR>> <BR>> Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, said Tuesday he wanted to get<BR>> the repeal effort "out of the system" so the Senate could move ahead with<BR>> other business, while his Republican counterpart said his party was<BR>> fulfilling an obligation to voters from last year's congressional<BR>> elections.<BR>> <BR>> "It would be a dereliction of duty if Republicans didn't fight for<BR>> repeal," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky. "We made<BR>> a promise to our constituents that we would vote to repeal this bill on<BR>> their behalf. And that's just what we intend to do."<BR>> <BR>> Wednesday's vote amounted to a push by Republicans to get Democratic<BR>> opposition to a full repeal on the record in the form of votes against the<BR>> amendment. Led by President Barack Obama, Democrats concede the health<BR>> care overhaul can be improved, but they oppose rolling back benefits for<BR>> consumers against health insurance industry practices such as denying<BR>> coverage due to pre-existing conditions.<BR>> <BR>> "We're not going to go back and fight the battles of the last two years,"<BR>> White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Wednesday. "We're not going<BR>> to go backward. We're going to move forward."<BR>> <BR>> Overall, the Republicans oppose the increased government role in<BR>> regulating health care, claiming it will impinge on individuals' right to<BR>> choose care options in the future. Democrats say the law enacted last year<BR>> will better control skyrocketing health care costs and expand coverage to<BR>> millions of people currently lacking health insurance.<BR>> <BR>> The specific motion the Senate voted on Wednesday involved a Democratic<BR>> challenge to the Republican repeal amendment on the grounds that it would<BR>> increase the federal deficit. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office<BR>> has said the health care reform law will lower the deficit, so Democrats<BR>> argue that repealing it would increase the deficit.<BR>> <BR>> By filing a budget point of order against the repeal amendment, Democrats<BR>> forced Republicans to hold a vote on waiving the point of order to<BR>> consider the amendment. That required 60 votes in the 100-seat Senate to<BR>> pass, a threshold out of reach of the Republicans, who hold 47 seats.<BR>> <BR>> Using the budget challenge was a way for Democrats to say they voted for<BR>> fiscal responsibility, while Republicans contend the public will<BR>> understand that the vote was really against the repeal of health care<BR>> reform.<BR>> <BR>> While a repeal of the entire health care law won't move forward, Senate<BR>> Democrats joined Republicans in voting for the elimination of a rule,<BR>> scheduled to take effect in 2012, requiring businesses to issue Form 1099s<BR>> to any individual or corporation from which they buy more than $600 in<BR>> goods or services in a year. Most liberals and conservatives view the rule<BR>> as an unnecessary burden on private-sector employers.<BR>> <BR>> The push for an outright repeal is one of several strategies currently<BR>> being pursued by the GOP leadership in order to undermine support for the<BR>> law. Senate Republicans also introduced legislation Tuesday that would<BR>> allow states to opt out of key provisions of the new health care law.<BR>> <BR>> Specifically, the bill would allow state governments to opt out of the<BR>> so-called "individual mandate" requiring everyone to obtain health care<BR>> coverage by 2014 or face penalties. It would also allow states to ignore<BR>> new mandates regarding employer-based coverage, insurance benefits and an<BR>> expansion of Medicaid.<BR>> <BR>> The motion was introduced one day after a federal judge in Florida issued<BR>> a sweeping ruling against the law, siding with 26 states that had<BR>> challenged the measure and setting up a likely Supreme Court challenge in<BR>> the months ahead.<BR>> <BR>> A federal judge in eastern Virginia has also found the health care law<BR>> unconstitutional, while two other federal judges, one in western Virginia<BR>> and one in Michigan, have ruled the opposite. Twelve other federal judges<BR>> have dismissed challenges to the law, according to the White House<BR>> <BR>> ---------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>> <BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>> <BR>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change<BR>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."<BR>> <BR>> - Unknown<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> =======================================================<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>> http://www.fsr.net <BR>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> =======================================================<BR>> <BR>> End of Vision2020 Digest, Vol 56, Issue 15<BR>> ******************************************<BR> </body>
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