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<DIV><FONT size=2>I think a legitimate issue has been raised by the suit, and
one whose eventual resolution, if it has not been already resolved
elsewhere, will have some important impacts for educational
institutions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I hope that the UI does not waste its much needed resources,
especially now after the UI President's appeal to the state legislature, on
this suit by hiring outside counsel. The issue is not a complex one, and
one I suspect, but do not know for sure, where recent court cases will have
greatly narrowed the issues, if not decided the eventual outcome.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>If the present UI Counsel and his staff are unable to
effectively argue the case in court, then perhaps it is time to re-evaluate the
UI Counsel and staff. In the past, the UI has squandered much resources on
outside counsel. With all the online legal resources now available,
one would hope a competent attorney could research, brief, and argue this issue
without outside help.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><BR>Wayne A. Fox<BR>1009 Karen Lane<BR>PO Box 9421<BR>Moscow, ID
83843</DIV>
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<DIV><A href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</A><BR>208
882-7975<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bear@moscow.com href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">Wayne Price</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 24, 2011 8:34
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Jus' When You
Thought Things Couln't Get MoreStupid . . .</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Tom,
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I agree with the two statements you made. However in your "bonus
round' you started talking about a "newly availed freedom", and there I have
to disagree with you, that freedom has been with us </DIV>
<DIV>since December 15th, 1791, hardly "newly availed".</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Also in light of the <SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 19px; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"
class=Apple-style-span> <I><A
style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: none; COLOR: rgb(6,69,173); TEXT-DECORATION: none; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial"
title="District of Columbia v. Heller"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller">District of
Columbia v. Heller</A></I> (2008), and </SPAN><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 19px; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"
class=Apple-style-span><I><A
style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: none; COLOR: rgb(6,69,173); TEXT-DECORATION: none; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial"
title="McDonald v. Chicago"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._Chicago">McDonald v.
Chicago</A></I> (2010), I have a feeling from reading them that the
Supreme Court will eventually</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=3 face=sans-serif><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 19px; FONT-SIZE: 13px" class=Apple-style-span>agree that
in state owned housing, you can't require a citizen to give up a fundamental
Constitutional right just to live there. See my comment on waiving your
fundamental </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=3 face=sans-serif><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 19px; FONT-SIZE: 13px"
class=Apple-style-span>Constitutional right to search and seizure just to live
in state owned housing.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="LINE-HEIGHT: 19px; FONT-SIZE: 13px"
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=3 face=sans-serif><SPAN
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class=Apple-style-span>Wayne</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>On Jan 24, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV>Two things, Mr. Price -<BR><BR>1) The South Hill Vista apartments
are, in fact, state-owned housing.<BR><BR>2) If residents of these
state-owned dwellings are permitted to store<BR>firearms and ammunition
within these state-owned dwellings, there is<BR>nothing to prevent residents
of state-owned dorms (including those dorm<BR>residents who habitually
consume such copious amounts of alcohol as to<BR>fall out of second-floor
windows) from possessing and storing firearms and<BR>ammunition within their
dorm rooms.<BR><BR>And for the bonus round, might I add that the first
fatality resulting<BR>from this newly availed freedom may, subsequently,
place the state (along<BR>with the State Board of Education and UI President
Duane Nellis) in court<BR>once again . . . as defendents in a wrongful death
lawsuit.<BR><BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On Mon,
January 24, 2011 7:11 pm, Wayne Price wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Paul,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">If we can agree that South Hill Vista, in one way
or the other is in<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">fact state housing, then I can't see how a rule
waiving a fundamental<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Constitutional Right in order to live in that
state housing will be held<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">by the court(s) to pass Constitutional
review.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">I worded it above specifically to look at the
issue of waiving a<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">fundamental Constitutional right to take out all
the possible animus<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">of what can be a "hot button" topic, and strictly
look at it as a<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Constitutional issue. For example, can the
University of Idaho, as a<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">"state" entity require people to waive the right
of search and seizure<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">in a state owned residence? IF the answer is
yes, that would mean a<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">law enforcement agency to enter University
housing, in this case South<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Hill Vista, would NOT need a search warrant. Can
we live with that?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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type="cite">Wayne<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV>
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