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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>Further evidence.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=lfalen@turbonet.com href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=deco@moscow.com
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:00
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] (no
subject)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>No, I do not get your drift.<BR>Roger<BR>-----Original
message-----<BR>From: "Art Deco" <A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011
13:37:30 -0800<BR>To: "Vision 2020" <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] (no subject)<BR><BR>> Roger's post below is not a kudos of
Rumelhart's posts; rather a condemnation (if you get the drift).<BR>>
<BR>> w.<BR>> ----- Original Message -----
<BR>> From: lfalen <BR>> To: Paul Rumelhart ;
Andreas Schou <BR>> Cc: <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>
<BR>> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 12:11
PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> I think that you are one of the most reasonable people
who post here and I agree with about 90% of your posts.<BR>>
Roger<BR>> -----Original message-----<BR>> From:
Paul Rumelhart <A
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</A><BR>>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:50:07 -0800<BR>> To: Andreas Schou <A
href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">ophite@gmail.com</A><BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)<BR>> <BR>> >
<BR>> > I tend to annoy everybody, I think. It's a
special trait of mine.<BR>> > <BR>> > I
haven't met very many people on the list in real life. I know Sue
<BR>> > Hovey, I've met Nick Gier, and I've talked to Keely
on the phone.<BR>> > <BR>> > I miss some
of the old-timers that haven't been around in a while. Is
<BR>> > Chasuk still around somewhere? There have been
periods of time where I <BR>> > haven't followed the list as
much as I'd like, so maybe I just haven't <BR>> > seen his
posts.<BR>> > <BR>> > Although Ted and I
are constantly beating our heads against each other, <BR>> >
I respect his character and can confidently say that he's a principled
<BR>> > person who cares deeply about the environment.
Nothing wrong with <BR>> > that. As I tend to get a
bit snarky in my responses far too regularly, <BR>> > I
apologize to him now for the many sarcastic and unfriendly remarks
<BR>> > I've made over the years.<BR>> >
<BR>> > I've talked with Gary both on and off the list (a
few times, anyway) and <BR>> > find him to be a good
guy. He calls them like he sees them, and I <BR>> >
respect that. My path over the last few years is one of realizing that
<BR>> > even people you differ with have important things to
say and that <BR>> > everything is not so black and white as
people try to make it appear. <BR>> > My opinion of
Gary has changed for the better since I've interacted with
<BR>> > him, and that can only be a good
sign.<BR>> > <BR>> > Apart from the last
few weeks, I haven't interacted with Joe that much, <BR>> >
but I appreciate the civil discourse we've had, even though we both
<BR>> > probably shriek at the walls various unflattering
remarks about each <BR>> > other after a long
back-and-forth. He's an intelligent guy, and he also
<BR>> > calls 'em like he sees 'em, too. That's a good
thing.<BR>> > <BR>> > I've had some good
conversations with Donovan, and find him to be a nice <BR>>
> guy.<BR>> > <BR>> > Andreas is one of
the more reasonable posters on the list, I enjoy his <BR>> >
posts when I see them. He seems level-headed and intelligent and wise,
<BR>> > really.<BR>> >
<BR>> > I enjoy Tom's humorous posts, and appreciate the
work he does for the <BR>> > community. I'm not as big
a fan of cats as he is, though. Don't hate <BR>> >
them, mind you, but I'm not as enamored of them.<BR>> >
<BR>> > I enjoy Keely's posts, even though we often disagree
about some things. <BR>> > I also enjoy Nicks posts,
they are very thought-provoking. There are <BR>> >
lots of others I'm missing, I'm sure. Reggie, Roger, Wayne, Jeff, Dan,
<BR>> > Dave, Deb, and others. All of them nice people
who think I'm a fruitcake ;)<BR>> > <BR>>
> It certainly doesn't hurt to take a break from the mud-slinging and to
<BR>> > realize that real people actually exist behind their
on-line personas. <BR>> > This list is an
enigma. It's full of generally nice people who like to
<BR>> > yell at each other all the time. It must be
the dehumanizing properties <BR>> > of the email medium, I
guess.<BR>> > <BR>> > Ah well, back to the
mudslinging, I say!<BR>> > <BR>> >
Paul<BR>> > <BR>> > Andreas Schou
wrote:<BR>> > > Gary's one of a very small number of
conservative commentators that<BR>> > > I've managed to
read consistently since I first became politically<BR>> >
> aware. In part, this may be due to the fact that he is one of a
very<BR>> > > small number of conservative commentators
whom I may annoy precisely<BR>> > > as much as he annoys
me. But, even where I think he's wrong, he's at<BR>> > >
least responsive.<BR>> > ><BR>> > >
He's also a damn good locksmith and, as far as I've heard
and<BR>> > > experienced, a decent human. I only disagree
with him about matters of<BR>> > > life, death, and
whether and how the government should acquire and<BR>> >
> spend trillions of dollars. Other than that, we're cool. And he's
not<BR>> > > the only conservative here that's made a
positive contribution to the<BR>> > >
community.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Many of
you know my wife had a brain tumor a couple of years ago
and<BR>> > > nearly died. I was in Seattle for most of
the relevant period, but I<BR>> > > received an
unsolicited offer from Doug Farris to bring over<BR>> > >
casseroles and whatnot. I couldn't take him up on it (because
I<BR>> > > suspect his offer didn't extend to driving the
casseroles to Seattle),<BR>> > > but I appreciated it
more than he knows. And I was genuinely sorry to<BR>> > >
hear that Pat Kraut died; in all of my professional dealings with
her,<BR>> > > through the Nazarene church, she genuinely
enacted the charitable<BR>> > > values we so vehemently
disagreed about the government enacting.<BR>> >
><BR>> > > I don't know the rest of the conservatives
here as well. Glenn isn't a<BR>> > > real person (though
I once had a perfectly civil lunch with the person<BR>> >
> I believe he is). Donovan Arnold probably wouldn't kick a puppy
unless<BR>> > > the puppy really had it coming. Jeff
Harkins is sometimes genuinely<BR>> > > helpful, and
bright and dedicated, if sometimes glib.<BR>> >
><BR>> > > I realize that it'll soon be time to get
back to shouting at each<BR>> > > other. As we should.
Isn't that why we're all here? (Maybe not Paul.<BR>> > >
He doesn't seem like a crank. I mean that as a compliment.) But in
the<BR>> > > spirit Dear Leader proposes, I think taking
a moment to appreciate the<BR>> > > people we will soon
be throwing rotten fruit at seems appropriate.<BR>> >
><BR>> > > -- ACS<BR>> >
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