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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>Then why not make them look like cross
hairs? I have been effectively peering through rifle scopes for nearly twice the
number of years you've been alive. In a scope the lines that make
up the reticle can not physically extend beyond the diameter of the
tube which defines the circle and they are always black. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>If they had been cross hairs I would still
have no problem with the map because as you say this sort of symbology is common
fare with both sides of the political fence. After
all, "politics is an expression of warfare by other means." ( my
most sincere apologies to Von Clausewitz)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>Now, please lay out for me the
logical mechanism for why an explanation of the symbols would me
made PRE facto? Now, why not simply admit that The whole map brouhaha is just
another manifestation of Palin derangement syndrome and seek help?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>g</DIV>
<DIV><BR></FONT><BR>--------------------------------------------------<BR>From:
"Andreas Schou" <ophite@gmail.com><BR>Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011
7:47 PM<BR>To: "the lockshop" <lockshop@pull.twcbc.com><BR>Cc:
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Resolution for the
112th Congress (after the Tucson Tragedy)<BR><BR>> Gary? I agree with you
that the rhetoric of the Right wasn't<BR>> responsible for this incident. But
Sarah Palin's ex post facto<BR>> announcement that the symbols on the map
were "surveyors symbols" is<BR>> so asinine that it defies description. Maps
with targets on them --<BR>> bullseyes, crosshairs, et al. -- are both common
and unremarkable.<BR>> There is, however, not a single Google result for a
political map<BR>> involving surveyors symbols (and I've tried this in
several<BR>> combinations) which doesn't reference Palin.<BR>> <BR>>
This is not to say that one does not exist. But the symbols are<BR>>
identifiable to anyone with a working occipital lobe as crosshairs.<BR>>
<BR>> -- ACS<BR>> <BR>> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 5:25 PM, the lockshop
<lockshop@pull.twcbc.com> wrote:<BR>>> The symbol means here, this
place, this location on the map. In other words<BR>>> this is a district
where we would like a Republican to be in office. Sort of<BR>>> like X
marks the spot. Why the uber left keeps trying to make this tragedy<BR>>>
about Sarah and the right is really an unsavory mystery. The shooter
was<BR>>> crazy. Stop trying to tarnish your ideological "enemies" with
reasons for a<BR>>> event that just are not there.<BR>>><BR>>>
g<BR>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>>> From: "Joe Campbell"
<philosopher.joe@gmail.com><BR>>> To:
<nickgier@roadrunner.com><BR>>> Cc:
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:46
PM<BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Resolution for the 112th Congress
(after the<BR>>> Tucson Tragedy)<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
Another question: What possible meaning or significance could
surveyor<BR>>> symbols have? Why that symbol?<BR>>><BR>>> On
Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:26 PM, <nickgier@roadrunner.com>
wrote:<BR>>>> A note to Roger and Gary:<BR>>>><BR>>>>
When Democrats start calling for "Second Amendment" solutions, then I
will<BR>>>> consider your losing battle to make Democrats more
violent.<BR>>>><BR>>>> If Palin meant those to be surveyor
symbols, why did she accompany the map<BR>>>> with the tweet "Don't
Retreat, Reload"? Could it be that the webmaster<BR>>>> couldn't find
the cross-hairs symbol that he really intended and
needed?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Nick<BR>>>><BR>>>> A
RESOLUTION FOR THE 112TH CONGRESS<BR>>>><BR>>>> Whereas, the
Pima County Sheriff rightly said that violent rhetoric has<BR>>>>
consequences;<BR>>>><BR>>>> Whereas, abortion clinic doctors
were marked with cross-hairs and “four<BR>>>> doctors, two clinic
employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort were<BR>>>>
killed”;<BR>>>><BR>>>> Whereas, GOP Senate candidate Sharon
Angle and Tea Party leaders declared<BR>>>> that a “Second Amendment”
solution may be necessary for the Obama<BR>>>>
administration;<BR>>>><BR>>>> Whereas, in November of 2009 a
person brought a handgun to one of now<BR>>>> critically wounded Rep.
Gabriel Giffords’ community gatherings;<BR>>>><BR>>>> Whereas,
GOP Vice-Presidential candidate Sarah Palin targeted 22<BR>>>>
Democratic seats with a symbol that Giffords, a gun owner, took
as<BR>>>> cross-hairs (the map was followed by a tweet that said “Don’t
Retreat,<BR>>>> Reload”);<BR>>>><BR>>>> Whereas,
Gifford’s opponent Jesse Kelley asked supporters to "shoot a<BR>>>>
fully automatic M16" to "get on target" and help "remove
Gabrielle<BR>>>> Giffords";<BR>>>><BR>>>> Whereas, on
Fox Business News Sarah Palin offered praise for Kelly: "I<BR>>>> don't
feel worthy to lace his combat boots";<BR>>>><BR>>>> Whereas,
on January 12, 2011 four GOP leaders in Arizona, criticized as<BR>>>>
McCain supporters, resigned after violent threats from Tea Party<BR>>>>
activists;<BR>>>><BR>>>> Whereas, Giffords’ office was
vandalized right after she voted for the<BR>>>> Affordable Health Care
Act;<BR>>>><BR>>>> Whereas, the U.S. lags other industrialized
countries in mental health<BR>>>> services, and Arizona ranks second to
last in the U.S.;<BR>>>><BR>>>> Whereas, repeal of the
Affordable Health Care Act has no chance of passing<BR>>>>
Congress;<BR>>>><BR>>>> Whereas, Americans, sometime by polls
of 2-1, support major aspects of the<BR>>>> Affordable Health Care
Act;<BR>>>><BR>>>> Therefore Be it Resolved that the repeal of
the Affordable Health Care Act<BR>>>> be
withdrawn;<BR>>>><BR>>>> Be It Further Resolved that more
funds be provided for mental health<BR>>>>
treatment;<BR>>>><BR>>>> And May It Further Resolved that all
Americans stop demonizing their<BR>>>> political and religious
opponents and refrain from using violent rhetoric<BR>>>> about
them.<BR>>>><BR>>>> And Finally May It Be Resolved that on the
eve of the MLK Holiday all<BR>>>> Americans attempt to embrace the
ethics of non-violence that Martin Luther<BR>>>> King drew from Mahatma
Gandhi and his own Christian faith.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
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