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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Hi Roger,<BR>
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I don't have the FBI estimates at my fingertips of how many innocents were locked up in Gauntanomo, but they are very high. Our prisons create more violent criminals by locking up drug offenders. Just think of how many new terrorists we produced by torturing innocent people in Cuba and other unnamed torture centers throughout the world.<BR>
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Read my column on U.S. torture at www.home.roadrunner.com/~nickgier/torture.htm<BR>
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The 100th birth centenary of Ronald Reagan is coming up and I have some new charges against him, but one thing that should be said in his favor is that he signed with great pride the latest Geneva Conventions on Torture, which as a treaty became not only international law but U.S. law as well.<BR>
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The shame of Bush's Iraq War and his War on Terror will haunt our memories for decades.<BR>
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Nick<BR>
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Nicholas F. Gier, Professor Emeritus<BR>
Department of Philosophy, University of Idaho<BR>
"The Palouse Pundit" on Radio Free Moscow, 92.5 FM<BR>
President, Idaho Federation of Teachers, AFT/AFL-CIO www.idaho-aft.org/ift.htm<BR>
208-882-9212, 1037 Colt Rd., Moscow, ID 83843<BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com on behalf of Ron Force<BR>
Sent: Fri 1/7/2011 3:18 PM<BR>
To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Detainee Transfer Annouced<BR>
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The numbers of recidivists seems to vary, depending on the source and the<BR>
political point the author wishes to make. You can find accounts at:<BR>
<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_former_Guantanamo_Bay_detainees_alleged_to_have_returned_to_terrorism">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_former_Guantanamo_Bay_detainees_alleged_to_have_returned_to_terrorism</A><BR>
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The estimated percentages range from 14% to 25%, a better rate than criminals<BR>
released from U.S. prisons (60%).<BR>
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It does appear that being released from Gitmo and taking up the fight again is<BR>
not conducive to long life--of course, being killed or re-captured is a the only<BR>
sure means of identifying continued insurgency. <BR>
Ron Force<BR>
Moscow Idaho USA<BR>
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From: Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com><BR>
To: lfalen <lfalen@turbonet.com>; Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>
Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 11:43:43 AM<BR>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Detainee Transfer Annouced<BR>
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Roger Falen suggested:<BR>
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"Please do some research on how many of those that have been released from<BR>
Guantanamo are now back working with some terrorist organization."<BR>
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You're jokin', right Roger.<BR>
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I mean . . . GET REAL!<BR>
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It's not like these guys post announcements to their Facebook pages like .<BR>
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"Me and the guys are back together and thinkin' of goin' to Bovill and<BR>
blowin' somethin' up. If interested, meet us at A&W for a Slurpie."<BR>
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This is something that the CIA would be tracking.<BR>
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Tom Hansen<BR>
Moscow, Idaho<BR>
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