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Thanks for your input. Of course, the <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.values.com">www.values.com</a> site features
an easy means of posting comments. They also encourage folks to
make suggestions for improving all features on the site, including
values definitions.<br>
<br>
As to the educational attributes of those responsible for developing
the site, you might want to ask them.<br>
<br>
You might consider some of the values before you write to them to
express your concerns about their "platitudes" - just a thought!<br>
<br>
Hope you find the remaining values interesting, thought provoking
and inspiring.<br>
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On 1/3/2011 9:18 AM, Art Deco wrote:
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<div> It may be wise to remember in a discussion of values the
following paraphrase of a quotation from English Philosopher
John Locke: </div>
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<div> "When comparing two ideas, it is necessary to have a clear
and distinct idea of each." </div>
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<div> Or its modern statement: </div>
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<div> "When comparing two statements or theories, the clearer,
less vague and ambiguous statement(s) of and definitions used in
each, the better the chance of meaningfully determining the
truth, or in the case of values, the correct application, or
least discovering the roots of agreement or disagreement." </div>
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<div> Somehow the author of the list which we have been presented
seems not to have appreciated the above recommendations, nor has
the author appreciated the wisdom of Aristotle about the virtues
and the mean -- avoiding excesses in either direction. The
author, if she/he really had an open mind about the nature of
value statements, might try taking Ethics 101. The author might
then discover that determining the truth, if there is such, or
correct application, if there is such, of value statements is
quite a bit more complicated than giving a list of platitudes. </div>
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<div> Values are not like gravity or electricity where erroneous
statements are confronted by hard reality. </div>
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<div> w. </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="jeffh@moscow.com" href="mailto:jeffh@moscow.com">Jeff
Harkins</a> </div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="vision2020@moscow.com"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 02, 2011 11:14 AM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Love</div>
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The comments on the "love" value have been interesting and <br>
thought-provoking.<br>
<br>
Many of you seem disappointed that the values lack "precision"
and/or <br>
"perfection" in the definitions - or perhaps fail to match your
<br>
"feelings" about love (or any of the other values).<br>
<br>
Couple of thoughts -<br>
<br>
I too have felt the definitions have not been as robust as I
would like, <br>
but upon reflection, I think the definitions are intended to
encourage <br>
conversation about the values and to gain perspectives about how
our <br>
beliefs might legitimately differ from others.<br>
<br>
As well, it seems to me that the whole point of thinking about
these <br>
"values" is to identify our own feelings about who we are and to
be able <br>
to appreciate how we might alter our own self image. Case in
point, if <br>
you viewed the TV spot for love (entitled Everlasting Love), the
message <br>
communicates (at least to me) a depth of love that transcends
age, <br>
gender, experience, wisdom, status - e.g., the "love between
father and <br>
daughter" - For me, I have a very different feeling about love
and my <br>
relationship with my soul mate.<br>
<br>
The quotations and lyrics you all have cited about love have
been <br>
terrific - very diverse.<br>
<br>
Here is one that has always been "interesting" to me:<br>
<br>
"It is not virtue, wisdom, valour, wit, strength, comeliness of
shape or <br>
amplest merit, that woman's love can win, or long inherit; but
what it <br>
is, hard is to say, harder to hit" [John Milton - Samson
Agonistes]<br>
<br>
That said,<br>
<br>
Isn't love a feeling?<br>
Isn't love warm?<br>
Isn't love personal?<br>
Isn't love a "bonding"?<br>
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