<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.18876">
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Okay, the "guy" is 18 and his girlfriend is 15
years and 11 months and 29 days old and he is a senior in high school and she is
a sophomore. How long should he go to prison? What the hell is so
hard about saying how long he should go to prison? How long? Chuck
Kovis</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=deco@moscow.com href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 27, 2010 12:28
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Our Wonderful
Latah County Justice System</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Chuck wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>"So, Tom, if the "guy" was 18 and the girlfriend was
17, how long should he be placed in prison for rape? Just
curious."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>So how does this fit the definition of rape?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase; FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>TITLE
18 </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase; FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>CRIMES
AND PUNISHMENTS</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt" class=p8><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>CHAPTER 61 </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>RAPE</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; PADDING-TOP: 9pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New"
class=f11s> 18-6101. <SPAN
style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase">Rape defined. </SPAN>Rape is defined as
the penetration, however slight, of the oral, anal or vaginal opening with the
perpetrator's penis accomplished with a female under any one (1) of the
following circumstances:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(1) Where the female is
under the age of sixteen (16) years and the perpetrator is eighteen (18) years
of age or older.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(2) Where the female is
sixteen (16) or seventeen (17) years of age and the perpetrator is three (3)
years or more older than the female.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(3) Where she is
incapable, through any unsoundness of mind, due to any cause including, but
not limited to, mental illness, mental disability or developmental disability,
whether temporary or permanent, of giving legal consent.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(4) Where she resists
but her resistance is overcome by force or violence.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(5) Where she is
prevented from resistance by the infliction, attempted infliction, or
threatened infliction of bodily harm, accompanied by apparent power of
execution; or is unable to resist due to any intoxicating, narcotic, or
anaesthetic substance.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(6) Where she is at the
time unconscious of the nature of the act. As used in this section,
"unconscious of the nature of the act" means incapable of resisting because
the victim meets one (1) of the following conditions:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; PADDING-LEFT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(a) Was unconscious or
asleep;</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; PADDING-LEFT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(b) Was not aware,
knowing, perceiving, or cognizant that the act occurred.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(7) Where she submits
under the belief that the person committing the act is her husband, and the
belief is induced by artifice, pretense or concealment practiced by the
accused, with intent to induce such belief.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(8) Where she submits
under the belief, instilled by the actor, that if she does not submit, the
actor will cause physical harm to some person in the future; or cause damage
to property; or engage in other conduct constituting a crime; or accuse any
person of a crime or cause criminal charges to be instituted against her; or
expose a secret or publicize an asserted fact, whether true or false, tending
to subject any person to hatred, contempt or ridicule.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>The provisions of subsections (1)
and (2) of this section shall not affect the age requirements in any other
provision of law, unless otherwise provided in any such law. Further, for the
purposes of subsection (2) of this section, in determining whether the
perpetrator is three (3) years or more older than the female, the difference
in age shall be measured from the date of birth of the perpetrator to the date
of birth of the female.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>W.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ckovis@turbonet.com href="mailto:ckovis@turbonet.com">Chuck
Kovis</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=thansen@moscow.com
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A> ; <A
title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision
2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 27, 2010 11:51
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Our Wonderful
Latah County Justice System</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>So, Tom, if the "guy" was 18 and the girlfriend was 17, how
long should he <BR>be placed in prison for rape? Just curious.
Chuck Kovis<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Tom Hansen"
<<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR>To:
"Sunil Ramalingam" <<A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>>;
"vision 2020" <BR><<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:alford@dnews.com">alford@dnews.com</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:lrozen@dnews.com">lrozen@dnews.com</A>><BR>Sent: Monday,
December 27, 2010 11:35 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Wonderful Latah
County Justice System<BR><BR><BR>> The guy has a criminal history. Sunil,
and he was convicted of rape for<BR>> God's
sake!!!!!!!!!!<BR>><BR>><BR>> Probation for
rape?????????????<BR>><BR>> Thank God he wasn't caught with
marijuana. We'd have to lock him up then,<BR>> huh?<BR>><BR>>
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH!!!!!<BR>><BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>>
Moscow, Idaho<BR>><BR>> On Mon, December 27, 2010 10:40 am, Sunil
Ramalingam wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> It seems to me that if people are
going to rail and shout, they should at<BR>>> least make sure they
report matters correctly. Hursh just came back from <BR>>>
a<BR>>> retained jurisdiction, which means he was in the prison system
and had to<BR>>> be recommended for probation based upon his
performance in the prison<BR>>> system programming. On the Grand
Theft charge he was sentenced to two to<BR>>> seven years in the
custody of the Idaho Department of Corrections.<BR>>><BR>>>
(Note to the Daily News: He is now on probation, not parole. They are
not<BR>>> interchangeable terms.)<BR>>><BR>>> Having had
clients go to prison after convictions of rape or child<BR>>>
molestation, I know it's ignorance to argue that those crimes go<BR>>>
unpunished in Latah County. I understand that people have their
agendas,<BR>>> but that does not excuse
falsehoods.<BR>>><BR>>> Sunil<BR>>><BR>>>> Date:
Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:45:13 -0800<BR>>>> From: <A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A><BR>>>> To:
<A href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:alford@dnews.com">alford@dnews.com</A>;<BR>>>> <A
href="mailto:lrozen@dnews.com">lrozen@dnews.com</A><BR>>>> Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Our Wonderful Latah County Justice
System<BR>>>><BR>>>> A THREE HUNDRED AND FIVE DOLLR
fine!!?!?!?<BR>>>><BR>>>> At Christmas
time?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Now, there's a couple taverns that'll
just have to go without this<BR>>>> season,<BR>>>>
huh?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Any guesses who the judge
was?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Welcome to Latah County . .
.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Where RAPE and PEDOPHILIA rank
supreme!<BR>>>><BR>>>> Seeya round town.
Moscow.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Tom Hansen<BR>>>> Moscosw,
Idaho<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>
On Mon, December 27, 2010 9:12 am, Art Deco wrote:<BR>>>> > The
following appeared in the Daily News Public Records section
on<BR>>>> > Saturday:<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> >
Sentencings<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > Monday -- Hunter Marsh
Hursh, 21, of Moscow was convicted of rape. He<BR>>>>
was<BR>>>> > fined $305 and sentenced to five years of probation
and 30 days of<BR>>>> > discretionary jail time, and he cannot
contact the victim for five<BR>>>> years.<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > Missing from this report is the fact that Hursh
(with an extensive<BR>>>> > criminal history) also received a
withheld judgment for this rape.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > WTF?<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > A
$305 fine and 30 days discretionary jail time? And a
withheld<BR>>>> judgment?<BR>>>> > For rape? A
felony?<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > Hursh is no stranger to
the criminal justice system. And since the<BR>>>>
crime<BR>>>> > of rape [04-28-2009], he has been convicted of
other crimes for which<BR>>>> he<BR>>>> > also received
probation. Hursh will soon, if not now, be out in our<BR>>>>
> community, free to pursue his habitual ways. Who will be his
next<BR>>>> > victims? Is this what we want to happen in
our community? Do we not<BR>>>> care<BR>>>> >
enough about each other to take some time and effort to prevent
this<BR>>>> kind<BR>>>> > of public endangering infamy
by the prosecutor and court?<BR>>>> ><BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > Read Hursh's criminal history and the bumblings of
the prosecutor and<BR>>>> > judges here (Have a barf bag at the
ready!):<BR>>>> > <A
href="https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=LATAH&county=Latah&partySeq=87230&displayName=Hursh%2C+Hunter+Martin">https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=LATAH&county=Latah&partySeq=87230&displayName=Hursh%2C+Hunter+Martin</A><BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > Also you can do a search in the online Daily News
[sorted by date] for<BR>>>> > more information.<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > What's going on in Latah
County?<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > Besides inept, public
disinterested prosecution and lazy, soft-headed<BR>>>> > judges,
where is the intensive media attention that allows this kind<BR>>>>
of<BR>>>> > outrage to escape public attention?<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > Is the Daily News deliberately shielding the
horrible ineptitude of<BR>>>> the<BR>>>> > prosecutor's
office and the lack of judgment of certain judges, or is<BR>>>>
the<BR>>>> > Daily News also practitioners of lassitude and
ineptitude? How can<BR>>>> the<BR>>>> > public
respond to this continued kind of ineptness and poor
judgment<BR>>>> in<BR>>>> > the criminal justice system
if the media does not cover and comment<BR>>>> upon<BR>>>>
> it? Without competent reporting and comment are we doomed to
continue<BR>>>> to<BR>>>> > experience these kinds of
outrages ad nauseam?<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > And without
intensive media coverage where is the general deterrence<BR>>>>
that<BR>>>> > is allegedly part of the goals of criminal
sentencing? How do law<BR>>>> > enforcement personnel feel
when they spend much time and effort<BR>>>> working
up<BR>>>> > a case only to find it handled in such a
horrendously nonchalant<BR>>>> manner by<BR>>>> > the
prosecutor and the courts? Over the long term wouldn't this
kind<BR>>>> of<BR>>>> > event be likely to demotivate
law enforcement?<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > We need
competent, public interest motivated reporting, and we need
to<BR>>>> > somehow motivate the prosecutor and court to serve
the public interest<BR>>>> or<BR>>>> > change the inept
and lazy out, by recall if necessary.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>>
> And if the local media are not willing to act responsibly, perhaps
it<BR>>>> is<BR>>>> > time to start talking to their
advertising clients who bear some<BR>>>> > responsibility for
supporting this fifth-rate media arrogance and<BR>>>>
careless<BR>>>> > ineptitude about serious crimes taking place
and adversely effecting<BR>>>> > member of our
community.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> ><BR>>>> >
Wayne A. Fox<BR>>>> > 1009 Karen Lane<BR>>>> > PO
Box 9421<BR>>>> > Moscow, ID 83843<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > <A
href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</A><BR>>>> > 208
882-7975<BR>>>> >
=======================================================<BR>>>>
> List services made available by First Step
Internet,<BR>>>> > serving the communities of the Palouse
since 1994.<BR>>>>
>
<A href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</A><BR>>>>
> <A
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>>>>
>
=======================================================<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>
"The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it
to<BR>>>> change<BR>>>> and the Realist adjusts his
sails."<BR>>>><BR>>>> -
Unknown<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>
=======================================================<BR>>>>
List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>>>>
serving the communities of the Palouse since
1994.<BR>>>>
<A
href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</A><BR>>>>
<A
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>>>>
=======================================================<BR>>>
=======================================================<BR>>>
List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>>>
serving the communities of the Palouse since
1994.<BR>>>
<A
href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</A><BR>>>
<A
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>>>
=======================================================<BR>><BR>><BR>>
"The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
change<BR>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."<BR>><BR>> -
Unknown<BR>><BR>><BR>>
=======================================================<BR>> List
services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> serving the
communities of the Palouse since
1994.<BR>>
<A
href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</A><BR>>
<A
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>>
=======================================================
<BR><BR>=======================================================<BR> List
services made available by First Step Internet, <BR> serving the
communities of the Palouse since 1994.
<BR>
<A
href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</A>
<BR> <A
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>=======================================================<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>
<HR>
<P></P>=======================================================<BR> List
services made available by First Step Internet, <BR> serving the
communities of the Palouse since 1994.
<BR>
http://www.fsr.net
<BR>
mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>=======================================================</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>