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<DIV><FONT size=2>Chuck wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>"So, Tom, if the "guy" was 18 and the girlfriend was
17, how long should he be placed in prison for rape? Just
curious."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>So how does this fit the definition of rape?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase; FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>TITLE 18
</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase; FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>CRIMES
AND PUNISHMENTS</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt" class=p8><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>CHAPTER 61 </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>RAPE</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; PADDING-TOP: 9pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New"
class=f11s> 18-6101. <SPAN
style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase">Rape defined. </SPAN>Rape is defined as
the penetration, however slight, of the oral, anal or vaginal opening with the
perpetrator's penis accomplished with a female under any one (1) of the
following circumstances:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(1) Where the female is
under the age of sixteen (16) years and the perpetrator is eighteen (18) years
of age or older.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(2) Where the female is
sixteen (16) or seventeen (17) years of age and the perpetrator is three (3)
years or more older than the female.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(3) Where she is
incapable, through any unsoundness of mind, due to any cause including, but not
limited to, mental illness, mental disability or developmental disability,
whether temporary or permanent, of giving legal consent.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(4) Where she resists but
her resistance is overcome by force or violence.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(5) Where she is
prevented from resistance by the infliction, attempted infliction, or threatened
infliction of bodily harm, accompanied by apparent power of execution; or is
unable to resist due to any intoxicating, narcotic, or anaesthetic
substance.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(6) Where she is at the
time unconscious of the nature of the act. As used in this section, "unconscious
of the nature of the act" means incapable of resisting because the victim meets
one (1) of the following conditions:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; PADDING-LEFT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(a) Was unconscious or
asleep;</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; PADDING-LEFT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(b) Was not aware,
knowing, perceiving, or cognizant that the act occurred.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(7) Where she submits
under the belief that the person committing the act is her husband, and the
belief is induced by artifice, pretense or concealment practiced by the accused,
with intent to induce such belief.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt; TEXT-INDENT: 5.9%"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>(8) Where she submits
under the belief, instilled by the actor, that if she does not submit, the actor
will cause physical harm to some person in the future; or cause damage to
property; or engage in other conduct constituting a crime; or accuse any person
of a crime or cause criminal charges to be instituted against her; or expose a
secret or publicize an asserted fact, whether true or false, tending to subject
any person to hatred, contempt or ridicule.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>The provisions of subsections (1)
and (2) of this section shall not affect the age requirements in any other
provision of law, unless otherwise provided in any such law. Further, for the
purposes of subsection (2) of this section, in determining whether the
perpetrator is three (3) years or more older than the female, the difference in
age shall be measured from the date of birth of the perpetrator to the date of
birth of the female.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; LINE-HEIGHT: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier New" class=f11s>W.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ckovis@turbonet.com href="mailto:ckovis@turbonet.com">Chuck Kovis</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=thansen@moscow.com
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A> ; <A
title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision
2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 27, 2010 11:51
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Our Wonderful
Latah County Justice System</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>So, Tom, if the "guy" was 18 and the girlfriend was 17, how
long should he <BR>be placed in prison for rape? Just curious.
Chuck Kovis<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Tom Hansen"
<<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR>To:
"Sunil Ramalingam" <<A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>>;
"vision 2020" <BR><<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:alford@dnews.com">alford@dnews.com</A>>; <<A
href="mailto:lrozen@dnews.com">lrozen@dnews.com</A>><BR>Sent: Monday,
December 27, 2010 11:35 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Wonderful Latah
County Justice System<BR><BR><BR>> The guy has a criminal history. Sunil,
and he was convicted of rape for<BR>> God's
sake!!!!!!!!!!<BR>><BR>><BR>> Probation for
rape?????????????<BR>><BR>> Thank God he wasn't caught with
marijuana. We'd have to lock him up then,<BR>> huh?<BR>><BR>>
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH!!!!!<BR>><BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>> Moscow,
Idaho<BR>><BR>> On Mon, December 27, 2010 10:40 am, Sunil Ramalingam
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> It seems to me that if people are going to rail
and shout, they should at<BR>>> least make sure they report matters
correctly. Hursh just came back from <BR>>> a<BR>>> retained
jurisdiction, which means he was in the prison system and had to<BR>>>
be recommended for probation based upon his performance in the
prison<BR>>> system programming. On the Grand Theft charge he was
sentenced to two to<BR>>> seven years in the custody of the Idaho
Department of Corrections.<BR>>><BR>>> (Note to the Daily News: He
is now on probation, not parole. They are not<BR>>> interchangeable
terms.)<BR>>><BR>>> Having had clients go to prison after
convictions of rape or child<BR>>> molestation, I know it's ignorance to
argue that those crimes go<BR>>> unpunished in Latah County. I
understand that people have their agendas,<BR>>> but that does not
excuse falsehoods.<BR>>><BR>>> Sunil<BR>>><BR>>>>
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:45:13 -0800<BR>>>> From: <A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A><BR>>>> To: <A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:alford@dnews.com">alford@dnews.com</A>;<BR>>>> <A
href="mailto:lrozen@dnews.com">lrozen@dnews.com</A><BR>>>> Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Our Wonderful Latah County Justice
System<BR>>>><BR>>>> A THREE HUNDRED AND FIVE DOLLR
fine!!?!?!?<BR>>>><BR>>>> At Christmas
time?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Now, there's a couple taverns that'll
just have to go without this<BR>>>> season,<BR>>>>
huh?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Any guesses who the judge
was?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Welcome to Latah County . .
.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Where RAPE and PEDOPHILIA rank
supreme!<BR>>>><BR>>>> Seeya round town.
Moscow.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Tom Hansen<BR>>>> Moscosw,
Idaho<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>
On Mon, December 27, 2010 9:12 am, Art Deco wrote:<BR>>>> > The
following appeared in the Daily News Public Records section on<BR>>>>
> Saturday:<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> >
Sentencings<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > Monday -- Hunter Marsh
Hursh, 21, of Moscow was convicted of rape. He<BR>>>>
was<BR>>>> > fined $305 and sentenced to five years of probation
and 30 days of<BR>>>> > discretionary jail time, and he cannot
contact the victim for five<BR>>>> years.<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > Missing from this report is the fact that Hursh
(with an extensive<BR>>>> > criminal history) also received a
withheld judgment for this rape.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > WTF?<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > A
$305 fine and 30 days discretionary jail time? And a withheld<BR>>>>
judgment?<BR>>>> > For rape? A felony?<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > Hursh is no stranger to the criminal justice
system. And since the<BR>>>> crime<BR>>>> > of rape
[04-28-2009], he has been convicted of other crimes for which<BR>>>>
he<BR>>>> > also received probation. Hursh will soon, if not
now, be out in our<BR>>>> > community, free to pursue his habitual
ways. Who will be his next<BR>>>> > victims? Is this
what we want to happen in our community? Do we not<BR>>>>
care<BR>>>> > enough about each other to take some time and effort
to prevent this<BR>>>> kind<BR>>>> > of public
endangering infamy by the prosecutor and court?<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > Read Hursh's criminal history
and the bumblings of the prosecutor and<BR>>>> > judges here (Have
a barf bag at the ready!):<BR>>>> > <A
href="https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=LATAH&county=Latah&partySeq=87230&displayName=Hursh%2C+Hunter+Martin">https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=LATAH&county=Latah&partySeq=87230&displayName=Hursh%2C+Hunter+Martin</A><BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > Also you can do a search in the online Daily News
[sorted by date] for<BR>>>> > more information.<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > What's going on in Latah
County?<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > Besides inept, public
disinterested prosecution and lazy, soft-headed<BR>>>> > judges,
where is the intensive media attention that allows this kind<BR>>>>
of<BR>>>> > outrage to escape public attention?<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > Is the Daily News deliberately shielding the
horrible ineptitude of<BR>>>> the<BR>>>> > prosecutor's
office and the lack of judgment of certain judges, or is<BR>>>>
the<BR>>>> > Daily News also practitioners of lassitude and
ineptitude? How can<BR>>>> the<BR>>>> > public
respond to this continued kind of ineptness and poor judgment<BR>>>>
in<BR>>>> > the criminal justice system if the media does not
cover and comment<BR>>>> upon<BR>>>> > it? Without
competent reporting and comment are we doomed to continue<BR>>>>
to<BR>>>> > experience these kinds of outrages ad
nauseam?<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> > And without intensive media
coverage where is the general deterrence<BR>>>> that<BR>>>>
> is allegedly part of the goals of criminal sentencing? How do
law<BR>>>> > enforcement personnel feel when they spend much time
and effort<BR>>>> working up<BR>>>> > a case only to find
it handled in such a horrendously nonchalant<BR>>>> manner
by<BR>>>> > the prosecutor and the courts? Over the long
term wouldn't this kind<BR>>>> of<BR>>>> > event be
likely to demotivate law enforcement?<BR>>>> ><BR>>>>
> We need competent, public interest motivated reporting, and we need
to<BR>>>> > somehow motivate the prosecutor and court to serve the
public interest<BR>>>> or<BR>>>> > change the inept and
lazy out, by recall if necessary.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> >
And if the local media are not willing to act responsibly, perhaps
it<BR>>>> is<BR>>>> > time to start talking to their
advertising clients who bear some<BR>>>> > responsibility for
supporting this fifth-rate media arrogance and<BR>>>>
careless<BR>>>> > ineptitude about serious crimes taking place and
adversely effecting<BR>>>> > member of our
community.<BR>>>> ><BR>>>> ><BR>>>> >
Wayne A. Fox<BR>>>> > 1009 Karen Lane<BR>>>> > PO Box
9421<BR>>>> > Moscow, ID 83843<BR>>>>
><BR>>>> > <A
href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</A><BR>>>> > 208
882-7975<BR>>>> >
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