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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>I have seen no indication that the
feds were in any way culpable. Perhaps Dave would like to present some
evidence where "<FONT color=#ff0000 face="Times New Roman"><FONT
color=#000000>Federal agencies knowingly lied to the workers (and citizens)
about the dangerous toxins involved."</FONT><FONT color=#000000>
</FONT></FONT>No amount of googling has revealed to me any official
pronouncement from FEMA, the CDC, the EPA, nor any other federal
agency that there were no toxic materials present at the WTC site or that
health hazards were no cause for concern. At
best any culpability would lay at the feet of NYC municipal
authorities for any false assurances. The lawsuits would be most properly
directed at them along with, as I have said before, the union pension fund
managers and the workmen's compensation carriers. From what I take from your
second sentence it would seem that you believe that emotion should carry more
weight in the matter then law. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu">Reggie Holmquist</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 18, 2010 5:06 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A
title="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">Gary Crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=tiedye@turbonet.com
href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com">Dave</A> ; <A
title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Jon Stewart to Republicans: YouCan't
Exploit9/11Anymore</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Except for this little bitty thing called Federal Sovereign
Immunity. But yes, let's make the 9/11 responders sue the federal
government so that they can receive what they should be entitled to in the first
place.<BR><BR>-Reggie<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Gary Crabtree <SPAN
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>I have know idea if that is true or not but, if
it is the key word is, as you say, liable. A matter for the courts, not a
justification for the passage of a bill granting a special case
entitlement.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com" target=_blank>Dave</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 18, 2010 11:59 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A
title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank>vision2020</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Jon Stewart to Republicans: YouCan't
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Because Federal agencies knowingly lied to the workers (and
citizens) about the dangerous toxins involved. That makes the federal
government liable.<BR><BR>Dave<BR><BR><BR>On 12/18/2010 06:24 AM, Gary
Crabtree wrote:
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>OK, I've read the bill. I've watched
the clip. I don't blame these guys for trying to get what they can. After
all, they did the job they signed up to do but, I still don't
understand why the federal government is being involved. It seems to me
that these guys gripe ought to be with their union and their municipal
workman's comp carrier. If you're let go because of a work related injury
your pension should kick in along with your employers comp. policy. Creating
a new taxpayer funded entitlement specifically for this group instead of
working through the courts, just like any other working stiff who
gets hurt on the job would have to do, seems ill conceived. After all,
I've heard no mention of a special bill for workers with asbestosis or
mesothelioma, guys who are also ill from work related causes through no
fault of their own.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu" target=_blank>Reggie
Holmquist</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 17, 2010 6:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=sbasoa@moscow.com href="mailto:sbasoa@moscow.com"
target=_blank>Steven Basoa</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A
title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank>Moscow Vision 2020</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Jon Stewart to Republicans: You Can't
Exploit9/11Anymore</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Steven Basoa <SPAN
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<DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word">Gary, if you can find it, I recommend
watching Jon Stewart's interview with four of the first responders from
9/11. It should answer all of the questions you posted. It's
about 5 minutes and is on the same show that Tom mentioned below (I do not
know if it's included in his link).
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<DIV>On Dec 17, 2010, at 2:59 PM, the lockshop wrote:</DIV><BR>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I would like to ask a question. Please do not
read more into it then is intended. This is a request for information and
nothing more.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Don't the police and firefighters in NYC and
the surrounding communities on Statten Island, New York state, as well as
New Jersey belong to fairly strong unions for which health care is a
negotiated benefit?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Aren't these same first responders also
covered by the same workmens compensation packages and disability pensions
that cover almost all other state and municipal employees?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Why are additional benefits due these workers
beyond what they already have available? What is it that I am
missing?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <</FONT><A
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face=Arial>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=2
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 1:22
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Subject: [Vision2020] Jon Stewart to
Republicans: You Can't Exploit 9/11Anymore</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>> On his
final show of 2010, Jon Stewart continued to blast Republicans for<BR>>
their hypocrisy on blocking and trying to sink the 9/11 first
responders<BR>> bill.<BR>> <BR>> Watch the video at:<BR>>
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