<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Back up your claim about obsession with Christ Church on the V with some data, Darrell. It's easy enough to do just by looking at subject headings. Even in the case of Tom, the number of non-CC posts far exceed the number of CC posts. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm admittedly an exception. I'm obsessed with radical right churches and their influence on American politics, especially local politics. They might be others but until I see some data, this is just another unsupported claim. Just support your case.</div><div><br></div><div>And as for my obsession, what's wrong with it? I'm a theist. I think Wilson's views are offensive, that he's immoral, and that the greatest threat to American freedom is the religious right. But somehow Wilson's rights to speak his mind out weigh my right to critique his views. Makes no sense to me.</div><div><br></div><div>Nor am I telling him to not say the things he says, nor to not post on the V. I'd love it if he did since it would allow me the chance to point out his errors and maybe learn something. Anyone from CC who was chased off the V was so because they did not want to be criticized, and nothing more. Prove me wrong and state examples otherwise. Back up your claims with examples.</div><div><br></div><div>I just don't see who you think you are telling me what I should or shouldn't WRITE about, what I should value. I'm not you, I'm me.</div><div><br><br></div><div><br>On Dec 1, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; "><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>OK this is my last post on this but let me just comment on one snowflake</span></font></pre>
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>from Darrell's last blizzard.</span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Looks like something we can agree on.</span></font></pre>
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; "> </span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>It would follow that any comment about any religious group or any religion</span></font></pre>
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>would be SSDD. As well as comments about most political parties or political</span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>organizations or political issues. Pretty much most of the comments on the V</span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>would be SSDD since I have yet to see one person change another person's</span></font></pre>
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>position when it comes to their core beliefs. Liberals are liberals, you're</span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>either for global warming or against it, and conservative Christians hate</span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>Muslims. No point discussing things since we all know what we all believe</span></font></pre>
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>and nothing will ever change. And pay no attention to the man behind the</span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>curtain.</span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">The above is simply an example of you attempting to make a point by carrying it to an extreme. None of those topics, or any other, get near the coverage on V2020 that Christ Church does. Too make an analogy: V2020 is like a household water spigot for most topics. It is a fire hose for Christ Church topics. I’d simply like to see the fire hose turned down.</span></font></pre>
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">> </span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>Maybe you should just tell us what we can talk about, Darrell, and that</span></font></pre>
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>would make it easier. I'm sure it's a short list.</span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">I have never expressed any desire to do so.</span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; "> </span></font></pre>
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">> </span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>I'd like to deal with the rest of your post but it might be better if we</span></font></pre>
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>just talked about it in the school yard and didn't bother the other</span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>folks. Or we could meet in the alley and I can throw you up against the wall</span></font></pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>and take your wallet, now that I know you're not threatened by remarks like</span></font></pre>
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">>these! Boy, I feel better already!</span></font></pre><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">
<font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Again going to extremes to make your point, I see. I’ll play along and answer you. While I may not like it, I do not find the NSA ad threatening. I view it as advertising hyperbole. Like you just did, they went to an extreme to make a point. On the other hand, if an individual honestly made such a threat to me I would make different assumptions about it. It would be treated seriously.</span></font></p>
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