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<DIV><FONT size=2>Most of us believe that the national debt is much too
high; it should be greatly reduced or eliminated all together (and then only
incurred again in the event of sudden emergency).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>But hardly anybody really is willing to make the life
style changes to accomplish this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>While this is a very complex issue, here are two things to
think about:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Unlike some of the healthy economies in western Europe,
ours is a growth driven economy as opposed to a quasi-sustainable
economy. Without growth, our economy falters resulting in unemployment,
spending stagnation, and a host of undesirable effects. Theodore Dreiser
noted this a very long time ago when he discussed conspicuous consumption and
related topics in his <EM>Theory of the Leisure Class</EM>. The majority
of Americans would now be classified as being part of the leisure class based on
their consumption habits and their <EM>laissez faire</EM>, nonchalant attitude
about personal and governmental debt.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>One of the problems of growth driven economies is their
eventual effect on limited natural resources. More growth means more use
of natural resources. Natural resources are limited. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>For just one example, we all already see this on the Palouse
where increased population is straining the water supply, particularly in
outlying rural areas. More people using more water has decreased the
supply available. Long time residents are seeing a decreased production
from their wells after new development takes place near them, and in some cases,
having their wells go (very expensively) dry. In large, sooner or
later there will be a point were certain necessary resources will reach the
point where they are only available at huge costs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Population growth at and home and globally present this
somewhat simplified statement of the problem: There are less and less
resources available and more and more people in competition for them.
Think of what things would be like if all countries had the same standard
of living as we enjoy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Gradually moving our country from a growth driven to a
sustainable economy would be difficult even if the majority of the population
and responsive politicians favored it; the biggest practical
difficulty: how to reduce the national debt (and its burdens of debt
service) in a transition to a sustainable economy. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Part of this transition can only happen with drastic changes
to tax laws. Though I have not personally counted them, tax authorities
estimate that nearly 40,000 of 44,000 pages of the federal tax code are for
exceptions to general tax laws that are favorable to special interests, mainly
businesses (most large corporations) and the wealthy. What this
"special" organizations and people don't pay, the rest of us make up for by
paying much more. Depressing: the chances of fundamental, far
reaching changes in tax laws are dim for the immediate future even after a
small number of recommendations came from the current bi-partisan group looking
for ways to reduce the national debt.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The other issue is gross religious hypocrisy. I do not
want to tar all conservatives with the same brush. But there is s growing
element of conservatives, some of them quasi-evangelistic, using their so-called
Christian beliefs to justify and to sell their political abilities and to
justify their political beliefs and actions. "This is a Christian
Country" -- whatever that means.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>However, apparently many of these religious bigots have never
read, have forgotten, or choose to ignore one of the fundamental teachings of
their Christ<STRONG><FONT color=#ff0000 size=6>*</FONT></STRONG> (who through
some unfathomable mental legerdemain is also their god): <STRONG>take care of
the poor and unfortunate</STRONG>. We see this locally where the infamous
leader of our local cult writes absolute garbage about how Jesus was all for the
free market. Lip action is given to god; all other actions is given to
self-satisfaction and to the satisfaction
of far-beyond-reasonable-necessity greed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The cuts or proposed spending this pseudo-Christian group of
politicians propose generally affects the poor and unfortunate more than any
other group. The hypocrisy is blatantly this: thumping their Bibles
and shouting their devotion to their wonderful alleged god, they stomp on the
necks of those their alleged god urges them to take care of, first and
foremost.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><BR>Wayne A. Fox<BR>1009 Karen Lane<BR>PO Box 9421<BR>Moscow, ID
83843</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</A><BR>208
882-7975<BR>_____________________________________</DIV>
<DIV></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#ff0000 size=6><STRONG>*</STRONG></FONT>The
message of Christ relevant to the above remarks is stated quite clearly in the
following passage from Matthew in which Christ's orders his followers to take
care of the poor or go to hell for eternity:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns =
"qv9" /><st1:bcv_smarttag w:st="on"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 24pt"><FONT size=4>Matthew
25:31</FONT></SPAN></B></st1:bcv_smarttag><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"> et seq<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><I
style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Young's Literal Translation of the
Bible</I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>[The Words of
Christ:]<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>31<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>‘And whenever the Son of Man may
come in his glory, and all the holy messengers with him, then he shall sit upon
a throne of his glory;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>32<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and gathered together before him
shall be all the nations, and he shall separate them from one another, as the
shepherd doth separate the sheep from the goats,<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>33<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and he shall set the sheep indeed
on his right hand, and the goats on the left.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>34<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>‘Then shall the king say to those
on his right hand, Come ye, the blessed of my Father, inherit the reign that
hath been prepared for you from the foundation of the
world;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>35<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>for I did hunger, and ye gave me to
eat; I did thirst, and ye gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and ye received
me;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>36<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>naked, and ye put around me; I was
infirm, and ye looked after me; in prison I was, and ye came unto
me.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>37<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>‘Then shall the righteous answer
him, saying, Lord, when did we see thee hungering, and we nourished? or
thirsting, and we gave to drink?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>38<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and when did we see thee a
stranger, and we received? or naked, and we put
around?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>39<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>and when did we see thee infirm, or
in prison, and we came unto thee?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>40<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>‘And the king answering, shall say
to them, Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as ye did it to one of these my
brethren—the least—to me ye did it.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>41<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>Then shall he say also to those on
the left hand, Go ye from me, the cursed, to the fire, the age-during, that hath
been prepared for the Devil and his messengers;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>42<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>for I did hunger, and ye gave me
not to eat; I did thirst, and ye gave me not to
drink;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>43<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>a stranger I was, and ye did not
receive me; naked, and ye put not around me; infirm, and in prison, and ye did
not look after me.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>44<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>‘Then shall they answer, they also,
saying, Lord, when did we see thee hungering, or thirsting, or a stranger, or
naked, or infirm, or in prison, and we did not minister to
thee?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>45<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN>‘Then shall he answer them, saying,
Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of these, the least, ye
did it not to me.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p><FONT
size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2>46<SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="COLOR: red">And these shall go
away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life
age-during.’</SPAN></B></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"></SPAN></B></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </P></FONT>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><STRONG><FONT size=2
face=Verdana>______________________________</FONT></STRONG></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>Another
well known passage among others:</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2
face=Verdana></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT
size=2>‘All these did I keep from my youth; what yet do I lack?’<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>21Jesus said to him, ‘If thou dost will
to be perfect, go away, sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou
shalt have treasure in heaven, and come, follow me.’ </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2
face=Verdana></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>----- Original Message -----
</P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm href="mailto:v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm">Saundra
Lund</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ophite@gmail.com
href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">'Andreas Schou'</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 13, 2010 5:43
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Alaska vote
count</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=WordSection1>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">In part, Gary
Crabtree wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">“</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">A worry for small
government conservatives?”</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Sorry – you can’t
call that group “small government conservatives” because they are <B>only</B>
for “small government” when it comes to caring for our citizens and protecting
our resources & environment from the inherent greed that’s ruined
capitalism & the free market in this country where the Almighty Dollar is
more important than such things as clean water & air, safe food,
affordable health care, fair lending, ethical behavior, fair employment
practices, equal protection, civil rights, etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">With respect to
military spending, the more, the better, in their view.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Which, of course,
reveals the lunacy of their shrill “deficit!” whining, and it also unmasks
them as anything <B>but</B> fiscal conservatives. Perhaps the most apt
description would be contemptible hypocrisy.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Saundra
Lund<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Moscow,
ID<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The
only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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