<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I'm reading this again and maybe I misunderstood your point. Is your point that since the local newspaper is a vehicle for local Republicans during election years and failed to ever note Ike Young's crazy father's offensive posts about Democrats = Communists that it makes it OK and we should ignore the fact that he planned to go to Boise to serve the party not the people? Is your point that when you have the local press in your pocket (and kissing your behind) that you can do whatever the heck you want?</div><div><br></div><div><br>On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:18 AM, "Gary Crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">The father of a local Republican candidate
vs. The President. You're right, strikes me as being about equal in throw
weight. I'm guessing that this local father, who ever it is you're talking
about, was receiving major media coverage on an hour by hour basis. Perhaps
you'd care to provide a cite to the radio, television, or
newspaper coverage of local daddy's daily disparagement? And are you really going to try to suggest that Republican leadership in congress, etc. WAS NOT hostile toward Obama over his first two years in office? That they didn't do whatever the could to stall legislation and maintain the recession so they could take over in the midterm elections? Holy crap!</font></div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:13 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">Gary Crabtree</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="kjajmix1@msn.com" href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely
emerinemix</a> ; <a title="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com>
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com>"><<a href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com">vpschwaller@gmail.com</a>></a> ; <a title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Pres mans-up</div></div></div>
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<div>You write: "Y<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469)" class="Apple-style-span">our paragon of masculine virtue had absolutely no need to
even acknowledge their presence other than to taunt them as the
source of all ills ..."</span></div>
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<div>For crying out loud, local Republicans ran a candidate whose father called
Democrats "communists" on a daily basis and neither you nor any of your friends
said a damn thing. I cannot imagine a Democrat getting away with that crap. So
please save your lectures about intolerance and hostility among progressives.
Obama will do more with Republican leadership than your stonewalling Republican
leadership ever did with him. <br><br><br></div>
<div><br>On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:47 PM, "Gary Crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a></a>>
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<div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Calibri">Reading a little much into a
subject line aren’t we?</font></div>
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<div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Calibri">I'm a little curious as to
how daunting you imagine "<font color="#ff0000">facing down an
unremittingly hostile GOP in his first half-term.</font><font color="#000000">"
is likely to have been. Your paragon of masculine virtue had absolutely no
need to even acknowledge their presence other than
to taunt them as the source of all ills, castigate
them as "enemies" and consign them to "the back of the bus." The cold hard
facts of the matter are that the president had a veto proof, filibuster proof
majority and could do as he pleased without so much as a Republican by your
leave. The only disappointments to be suffered were at the hands of other
democrats.</font></font></div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:47 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com">vpschwaller@gmail.com</a></a> ; <a title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Pres mans-up</div></div></div>
<div><br></div>Gee, Glenndale, with talk of the President's "manning up," you
sound as rough and tumble as Christine O'Donnell, Sarah Palin, and Sharron
Angle. I suppose that makes you da man . . . or da men. Good
for you.<br><br>It looks like you're interpreting the Huffington Post article
as an introduction to Obama 2.0, Manlier Version (Chest Hair Sold
Separately). I guess, then, that I'd be correct in concluding that you
think that some sort of cowardice, softness, and limp-wristedness is behind
Obama's difficulties over the past two years. Care to confirm, with
examples? Because I think a lot of us who have had our disappointments
with him haven't really ever given due consideration to any lack of bravery or
toughness on his part. I know you know a lot about bravery and
toughness, so I'm hoping you can shed some light on this for us. I know
you wouldn't hold a guy's intellect, education, or bearing against him --
you've probably met a few manly Classicists in your life -- so I'm really
interested in hearing how he hasn't "manned up" while facing down an
unremittingly hostile GOP in his first half-term.<br><br>It's true that Barack
Obama doesn't taunt our enemies on a destroyer in wartime while wearing a
crotch-enhancing flightsuit, but I just guess I always assumed he was "man
enough" for the job. Since I know we can agree that people who hide
behind pseudonyms or anonymity aren't terribly gutsy, I await your
analysis.<br><br><font color="#8064a2"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size="3"><font face="Verdana">Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com"><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a></a><br></font></font></font><br><br><br><br>>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:57:58 -0700<br>> From: <a href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com">vpschwaller@gmail.com</a></a><br>> To:
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Subject: [Vision2020] Pres mans-up<br>> <br>> >From the Huffington
Post:<br>> <br>> A chastened President Barack Obama signaled a
willingness to<br>> compromise with Republicans on tax cuts and energy
policy Wednesday,<br>> one day after his party lost control of the House
and suffered deep<br>> Senate losses in midterm elections.<br>> <br>>
Obama ruefully called the Republican victories "a shellacking" and<br>>
acknowledged that his own connection with the public had frayed.<br>>
<br>> At a White House news conference, the president said that
when<br>> Congress returns, "my goal is to make sure we don't have a huge
spike<br>> in taxes for middle class families." He made no mention of
his<br>> campaign-long insistence that tax cuts be permitted to expire
on<br>> upper-income families, a position he said would avoid swelling
the<br>> deficit but put him in conflict with Republicans.<br>> <br>>
He also virtually abandoned his legislation – hopelessly stalled in<br>>
the Senate – featuring economic incentives to reduce carbon emissions<br>>
from power plants, vehicles and other sources.<br>> <br>> "I'm going to
be looking for other means of addressing this problem,"<br>> he said. "Cap
and trade was just one way of skinning the cat," he<br>> said, strongly
implying there will be others.<br>> <br>> In the campaign, Republicans
slammed the bill as a "national energy<br>> tax" and jobs killer, and
numerous Democrats sought to emphasize their<br>> opposition to the measure
during their own re-election races.<br>> <br>> The president opened his
post-election news conference by saying<br>> voters who felt frustrated by
the sluggish pace of economic recovery<br>> had dictated the Republican
takeover in the House.<br>> <br>> Asked to reflect on the returns, he
said, "I feel bad," adding that<br>> many Democrats who went down to defeat
had done so knowing they risked<br>> their careers to support his agenda of
economic stimulus legislation<br>> and a landmark health care bill. He
blamed himself, in part.<br>> <br>> "The relationship that I've had with
the American people is one that<br>> built slowly, peaked at this
incredible high, and then during the<br>> course of the last two years, as
we've together gone through some very<br>> difficult times, has gotten
rockier and tougher," Obama said.<br>> <br>>
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