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<body class='hmmessage'>Argue all you want, but the truth is that the problems of this country are a direct result of the Democrats AND Repubicans.<br>As long as these two parties keep a stranglehold on national politics, it'll be like taking a shitty diaper off a baby, turning it inside out and putting it back on every time "control" changes.<br>Both parties are controlled by asshats whose only interest is money and power.<br>There will be no change as long as people keep voting o the basis of party rather than actually thinking. <br><br>> From: vision2020-request@moscow.com<br>> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 53, Issue 31<br>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:20:33 -0700<br>> <br>> Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to<br>> 	vision2020@moscow.com<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> 	http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020<br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> 	vision2020-request@moscow.com<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> 	vision2020-owner@moscow.com<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. Re: Sign seen in Genesee (Gary Crabtree)<br>> 2. Re: Sign seen in Genesee (Andreas Schou)<br>> 3. Re: Sign seen in Genesee (Reggie Holmquist)<br>> 4. national results web sites (Paul Rumelhart)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:59:39 -0700<br>> From: "Gary Crabtree" <jampot@roadrunner.com><br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sign seen in Genesee<br>> To: "Andreas Schou" <ophite@gmail.com>,	"the lockshop"<br>> 	<lockshop@pull.twcbc.com><br>> Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Message-ID: <A9BD8F87AEC34D56AD49C48EDD2021C8@GaryPC><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> To further your half assed analogy, BHO bid on the home as is, all the while boasting of being a master fire fighter. He then stands around complaining about it being an inferno. Rather than doing anything useful about the problem, he bitches about the previous owner, reorganizes the sock drawer, and goes on a lengthy vacation.<br>> <br>> g<br>> <br>> --------------------------------------------------<br>> From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite@gmail.com><br>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:36 PM<br>> To: "the lockshop" <lockshop@pull.twcbc.com><br>> Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sign seen in Genesee<br>> <br>> >> Looks as though GWB had a little help in the undertaking. As to the<br>> >> assertion that BHO is on record as opposing the effort, while he wasn't in<br>> >> office for these votes,he did consistantly vote to fund it.<br>> > <br>> > Cutting the funding doesn't end the war. It commits us to a war<br>> > without committing any resources. In every way, it's the worst of both<br>> > worlds: it commits us to half-assing a policy or, at worst,<br>> > half-assing the end to that policy. I opposed the war in Iraq. I think<br>> > we've substantially completed our mission in Afghanistan. As a<br>> > representative, I'd vote to fund either, because half-assing it is not<br>> > an option.<br>> > <br>> >> Obama has been CiC for two years now. If he really wanted us out, we'd be out. They're his<br>> >> wars now.<br>> > <br>> > Gary? Let's say someone comes over to your house and sets it on fire.<br>> > In a sense, that's your fire -- congratulations, you're the guy with<br>> > the responsibility to put it out. We can talk about whether you're<br>> > doing a good job stopping the fire. But if we're talking about why<br>> > there's a fire in your house, cutting the arsonist out of the picture<br>> > is not just nonsensical, but insane.<br>> > <br>> > -- ACS<br>> > <br>> > =======================================================<br>> > List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> > http://www.fsr.net <br>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > =======================================================<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20101102/5b1dc22c/attachment-0001.html <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:03:35 -0700<br>> From: Andreas Schou <ophite@gmail.com><br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sign seen in Genesee<br>> To: Gary Crabtree <jampot@roadrunner.com><br>> Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Message-ID:<br>> 	<AANLkTim47G0kNcyaecdqKwZbX7TqhgkFF9GLwdHRNTMr@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> <br>> The Iraq war is set to close-down within the timetable he gave before<br>> the election. What problem do you see there? Afghanistan, due to seven<br>> years of near-total neglect, is a mess. Karzai -- our appointed<br>> candidate -- has been taking giant bags stuffed full of cash from the<br>> Iranians, and has been doing so since before Bush left office.<br>> <br>> What's the solution that seems so crystal-clear to you?<br>> <br>> -- ACS<br>> <br>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Gary Crabtree <jampot@roadrunner.com> wrote:<br>> > To further your half assed analogy, BHO bid on?the home as is, all the while<br>> > boasting of being a master fire fighter.?He then stands around complaining<br>> > about it being an inferno. Rather than doing anything useful about the<br>> > problem, he bitches about the previous owner, reorganizes the sock drawer,<br>> > and goes on a lengthy vacation.<br>> ><br>> > g<br>> ><br>> > --------------------------------------------------<br>> > From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite@gmail.com><br>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:36 PM<br>> > To: "the lockshop" <lockshop@pull.twcbc.com><br>> > Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sign seen in Genesee<br>> ><br>> >>> Looks as though GWB had a little help in the undertaking. As to the<br>> >>> assertion that BHO is on record as opposing the effort, while he wasn't<br>> >>> in<br>> >>> office for these votes,he did consistantly vote to fund it.<br>> >><br>> >> Cutting the funding doesn't end the war. It commits us to a war<br>> >> without committing any resources. In every way, it's the worst of both<br>> >> worlds: it commits us to half-assing a policy or, at worst,<br>> >> half-assing the end to that policy. I opposed the war in Iraq. I think<br>> >> we've substantially completed our mission in Afghanistan. As a<br>> >> representative, I'd vote to fund either, because half-assing it is not<br>> >> an option.<br>> >><br>> >>> Obama has been CiC for two years now. If he really wanted us out, we'd be<br>> >>> out. They're his<br>> >>> wars now.<br>> >><br>> >> Gary? Let's say someone comes over to your house and sets it on fire.<br>> >> In a sense, that's your fire -- congratulations, you're the guy with<br>> >> the responsibility to put it out. We can talk about whether you're<br>> >> doing a good job stopping the fire. But if we're talking about why<br>> >> there's a fire in your house, cutting the arsonist out of the picture<br>> >> is not just nonsensical, but insane.<br>> >><br>> >> -- ACS<br>> >><br>> >> =======================================================<br>> >> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> >>?????????????? http://www.fsr.net<br>> >>????????? mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >> =======================================================<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 3<br>> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:07:18 -0700<br>> From: Reggie Holmquist <reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu><br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sign seen in Genesee<br>> To: Gary Crabtree <jampot@roadrunner.com><br>> Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Message-ID:<br>> 	<AANLkTinvngBk9u5-v5h+5osFjmTmgG5ho9oJMuEghHAz@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> Not really. It's more like GWB/friends drove the truck into a ditch. After<br>> that, BHO/friends got out and tried to push the truck out of the ditch while<br>> GWB/friends criticized how they went about it and worked against them.<br>> After BHO/friends finally got the truck out of the ditch, GWB/friends<br>> demanded to have the keys back.<br>> <br>> -Reggie<br>> <br>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Gary Crabtree <jampot@roadrunner.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> > To further your half assed analogy, BHO bid on the home as is, all the<br>> > while boasting of being a master fire fighter. He then stands around<br>> > complaining about it being an inferno. Rather than doing anything useful<br>> > about the problem, he bitches about the previous owner, reorganizes the sock<br>> > drawer, and goes on a lengthy vacation.<br>> ><br>> > g<br>> ><br>> > --------------------------------------------------<br>> > From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite@gmail.com><br>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:36 PM<br>> > To: "the lockshop" <lockshop@pull.twcbc.com><br>> > Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> ><br>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sign seen in Genesee<br>> ><br>> > >> Looks as though GWB had a little help in the undertaking. As to the<br>> > >> assertion that BHO is on record as opposing the effort, while he wasn't<br>> > in<br>> > >> office for these votes,he did consistantly vote to fund it.<br>> > ><br>> > > Cutting the funding doesn't end the war. It commits us to a war<br>> > > without committing any resources. In every way, it's the worst of both<br>> > > worlds: it commits us to half-assing a policy or, at worst,<br>> > > half-assing the end to that policy. I opposed the war in Iraq. I think<br>> > > we've substantially completed our mission in Afghanistan. As a<br>> > > representative, I'd vote to fund either, because half-assing it is not<br>> > > an option.<br>> > ><br>> > >> Obama has been CiC for two years now. If he really wanted us out, we'd<br>> > be out. They're his<br>> > >> wars now.<br>> > ><br>> > > Gary? Let's say someone comes over to your house and sets it on fire.<br>> > > In a sense, that's your fire -- congratulations, you're the guy with<br>> > > the responsibility to put it out. We can talk about whether you're<br>> > > doing a good job stopping the fire. But if we're talking about why<br>> > > there's a fire in your house, cutting the arsonist out of the picture<br>> > > is not just nonsensical, but insane.<br>> > ><br>> > > -- ACS<br>> > ><br>> > > =======================================================<br>> > > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > > http://www.fsr.net<br>> > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > =======================================================<br>> ><br>> > =======================================================<br>> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > http://www.fsr.net<br>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > =======================================================<br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what<br>> the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be<br>> replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another<br>> theory which states that this has already happened.<br>> <br>> Douglas Adams<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20101102/c25c0cdf/attachment-0001.html <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 4<br>> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 18:20:27 -0700<br>> From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com><br>> Subject: [Vision2020] national results web sites<br>> To: Vision2020 <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> Message-ID: <4CD0B8DB.1070703@yahoo.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br>> <br>> For those of us lucky enough not to have cable or satellite TV right <br>> now, does anyone have a favorite election results website they like? So <br>> far, I've settled on the New York Times website <br>> (http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/results/senate), but I'm sure there <br>> are others that offer more comprehensive features.<br>> <br>> Paul<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> =======================================================<br>> <br>> End of Vision2020 Digest, Vol 53, Issue 31<br>> ******************************************<br> </body>
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