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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think the cross was added to the photo, but the underlying bad taste photo of Palin wrapping herself in a flag a few days after 9/11 is genuine pure Palin. Photographer was Judy Patrick.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/29/sarah-palin-2009-calendar-girl/">http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/29/sarah-palin-2009-calendar-girl/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>BTW, Gary, you’re showing your age and/or lack of experience: for someone proficient with photo editing software, adding the tacky cross would take fewer than five minutes. For giggles, I just timed myself adding a flower photo to one of my backyard photos, and it took me all of about 40 seconds once I had the two pictures . . . and I’m not terribly proficient as this kind of thing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As an aside, I quit giving a rip about the NRA back when my very conservative owns-more-guns-than-probably-everyone-here law enforcement professional brother decided the NRA had gone completely off the deep end into whack-a-do land. If people like Gary want to continue to put the NRA on some kind of pedestal & refuse to see how completely fringy it’s become, that’s his right. I’ve lived long enough to remember back when the NRA was a decent enough group.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It seems to me the NRA has become an excellent example of advocacy past absurdity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saundra Lund<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Moscow, ID<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~ Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2010 through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the author.*****<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary Crabtree<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 01, 2010 10:59 AM<br><b>To:</b> Dave; vision2020@moscow.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>An assertion right up there with "according to a friend of my cousins hairdressers daughter, I heard that..."</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>g</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com" title="tiedye@turbonet.com">Dave</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Monday, November 01, 2010 8:58 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" title="vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Not edited, it was on her website until it started circulating around the web with the Lewis quote attached.<br><br>Dave<br><br><br>On 10/31/2010 08:23 PM, Gary Crabtree wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Indeed, what in the world would the extreme left do without Photoshop to occupy their copious free time.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>g</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com" title="donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">Rosemary</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:13 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:krfp@radiofreemoscow.org" title="krfp@radiofreemoscow.org">'KRFP'</a> ; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" title="vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I can’t believe how apropos this photo is – on so many levels! Thanks so much for sharing.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rose</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" title="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>KRFP<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Like this?<br><br><img border=0 width=407 height=336 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CB79B4.C0BDA7C0"><br><br>Oh and a quick search says it was Sinclair Lewis in 1935<br><br>Dave<br><br><br>On 10/31/2010 12:56 PM, keely emerinemix wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Rosemary writes:<br><br>"Of course, I'm suspicious of any civilian group that wraps the flag around their agenda."<br><br>I'm afraid I don't know who first said this, but I agree, and it's highly relevant this election season:<br><br>"When fascism comes to the United States, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."<br><br><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#8064A2'>Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a><br></span><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>From: <a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:ringoshirl@moscow.com">ringoshirl@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 08:41:31 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=ecxmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you Shirley for a thoughtful response to Gary’s question. Many of my family members enjoy hunting and own guns. From my perspective, however, an “F” rating from the NRA is a badge of honor. Ranting about 2<sup>nd</sup> amendment rights by louts who would be unable to discuss (intelligently) any other constitutional issue rings more than a little hollow to me. Of course, I’m suspicious of any civilian group that wraps the flag around their agenda.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rosemary</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=ecxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>ringoshirl<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:23 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=ecxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=ecxmsonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Visionaries:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=ecxmsonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=ecxmsonormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Gary Crabtree has requested a discussion from me concerning my low rating from the National Rifle Association. It’s interesting to me that Mr. Crabtree did not attend any of the forums, nor take the time to submit a question during the KRFP interview. I am also uncomfortable with his vitriolic comments towards people with whom he disagrees politically. After asking me to respond, he brands my answer “rhetoric” in advance.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=ecxmsonormal style='margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>However, he has raised an issue about which some of you may be curious, so I will give a candid response. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal style='margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I have many friends who are sportsmen, belong to the NRA, and enjoy their publications. I think the organization provides a service that people appreciate. I also think that, at times, their political action wing has been over the top. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal style='margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>This is a powerful lobbying group in the Idaho Legislature. Many legislators just produce the votes the NRA requests because of its powerful influence. During my service in the Legislature, I have not always voted according to their wishes. I have listened to constituents who have contacted me. I have contacted attorneys to determine whether the legislation was deemed necessary by them. After weighing all information, I vote according to what seems most responsible, and I never take this lightly.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal style='margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Gun safety is very important to me. In the most recent session, the majority passed legislation stipulating that firearms manufactured exclusively in Idaho would be exempt from federal regulations. I think that is dangerous and irresponsible. Our Attorney General said it was likely unconstitutional. My vote was one of the few against that legislation.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal style='margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>During my five terms in the legislature, I have not introduced legislation that would threaten anybody’s second amendment rights. I have none planned. Nobody enjoys a low rating from a political action group, and we should always listen to all sides of an issue before voting. 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