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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think the cross was added to the photo, but the underlying bad taste photo of Palin wrapping herself in a flag a few days after 9/11 is genuine pure Palin.&nbsp; Photographer was Judy Patrick.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/29/sarah-palin-2009-calendar-girl/">http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/29/sarah-palin-2009-calendar-girl/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>BTW, Gary, you&#8217;re showing your age and/or lack of experience:&nbsp; for someone proficient with photo editing software, adding the tacky cross would take fewer than five minutes.&nbsp; For giggles, I just timed myself adding a flower photo to one of my backyard photos, and it took me all of about 40 seconds once I had the two pictures . . . and I&#8217;m not terribly proficient as this kind of thing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As an aside, I quit giving a rip about the NRA back when my very conservative owns-more-guns-than-probably-everyone-here law enforcement professional brother decided the NRA had gone completely off the deep end into whack-a-do land.&nbsp; If people like Gary want to continue to put the NRA on some kind of pedestal &amp; refuse to see how completely fringy it&#8217;s become, that&#8217;s his right.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve lived long enough to remember back when the NRA &nbsp;was a decent enough group.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It seems to me the NRA has become an excellent example of advocacy past absurdity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saundra Lund<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Moscow, ID<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~ Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2010 through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund.&nbsp; Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the author.*****<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary Crabtree<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 01, 2010 10:59 AM<br><b>To:</b> Dave; vision2020@moscow.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>An assertion right up there with &quot;according to a friend of my cousins hairdressers daughter, I heard that...&quot;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>g</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com" title="tiedye@turbonet.com">Dave</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Monday, November 01, 2010 8:58 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" title="vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Not edited, it was on her website until it started circulating around the web with the Lewis quote attached.<br><br>Dave<br><br><br>On 10/31/2010 08:23 PM, Gary Crabtree wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Indeed, what in the world would the extreme&nbsp;left do without Photoshop to occupy their copious free time.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>g</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com" title="donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">Rosemary</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:13 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:krfp@radiofreemoscow.org" title="krfp@radiofreemoscow.org">'KRFP'</a> ; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" title="vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I can&#8217;t believe how apropos this photo is &#8211; on so many levels! Thanks so much for sharing.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rose</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" title="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com&#13;&#10;CTRL + Click to follow link">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>KRFP<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Like this?<br><br><img border=0 width=407 height=336 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CB79B4.C0BDA7C0"><br><br>Oh and a quick search says it was Sinclair Lewis in 1935<br><br>Dave<br><br><br>On 10/31/2010 12:56 PM, keely emerinemix wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Rosemary writes:<br><br>&quot;Of course, I'm suspicious of any civilian group that wraps the flag around their agenda.&quot;<br><br>I'm afraid I don't know who first said this, but I agree, and it's highly relevant this election season:<br><br>&quot;When fascism comes to the United States, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.&quot;<br><br><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#8064A2'>Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a><br></span><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>From: <a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:ringoshirl@moscow.com">ringoshirl@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 08:41:31 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=ecxmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank you Shirley for a thoughtful response to Gary&#8217;s question.&nbsp; Many of my family members enjoy hunting and own guns. &nbsp;&nbsp;From my perspective, however, &nbsp;an &#8220;F&#8221; rating from the NRA is a badge of honor.&nbsp; Ranting about 2<sup>nd</sup> amendment rights by louts who would be unable to discuss (intelligently) any other constitutional issue rings more than a little hollow to me. &nbsp;Of course, I&#8217;m suspicious of any civilian group that wraps the flag around their agenda.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rosemary</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=ecxmsonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>ringoshirl<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:23 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Crabtree and the NRA</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=ecxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=ecxmsonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Visionaries:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=ecxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=ecxmsonormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Gary Crabtree has requested a discussion from me concerning my low rating from the National Rifle Association.&nbsp; It&#8217;s interesting to me that Mr. Crabtree did not attend any of the forums, nor take the time to submit a question during the KRFP interview.&nbsp; I am also uncomfortable with his vitriolic comments towards people with whom he disagrees politically.&nbsp; After asking me to respond, he brands my answer &#8220;rhetoric&#8221; in advance.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=ecxmsonormal style='margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>However, he has raised an issue about which some of you may be curious, so I will give a candid response.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal style='margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I have many friends who are sportsmen, belong to the NRA, and enjoy their publications.&nbsp; I think the organization provides a service that people appreciate.&nbsp; I also think that, at times, their political action wing has been over the top.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal style='margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>This is a powerful lobbying group in the Idaho Legislature.&nbsp; Many legislators just produce the votes the NRA requests because of its powerful influence.&nbsp; During my service in the Legislature, I have not always voted according to their wishes.&nbsp; I have listened to constituents who have contacted me.&nbsp; I have contacted attorneys to determine whether the legislation was deemed necessary by them.&nbsp; After weighing all information, I vote according to what seems most responsible, and I never take this lightly.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal style='margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Gun safety is very important to me.&nbsp; In the most recent session, the majority passed legislation stipulating that firearms manufactured exclusively in Idaho would be exempt from federal regulations.&nbsp; I think that is dangerous and irresponsible.&nbsp; Our Attorney General said it was likely unconstitutional.&nbsp; My vote was one of the few against that legislation.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal style='margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>During my five terms in the legislature, I have not introduced legislation that would threaten anybody&#8217;s second amendment rights.&nbsp; I have none planned.&nbsp; Nobody enjoys a low rating from a political action group, and we should always listen to all sides of an issue before voting.&nbsp; But our legislative decision-making should not be driven by a desire for high ratings. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=ecxmsonormal style='margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Shirley Ringo</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3229 - Release Date: 10/31/10 07:33:00</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>======================================================= List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a> ======================================================= <o:p></o:p></p><pre>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>=======================================================<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> List services made available by First Step Internet, <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>=======================================================<o:p></o:p></pre><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3229 - Release Date: 10/31/10 07:33:00</span><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal>=======================================================<br>&nbsp;List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>&nbsp;serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Windows, OSX, or Linux is the same choice as:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>McDonald's, Burger King, or a (real) Co-Op.<o:p></o:p></pre><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal>=======================================================<br>&nbsp;List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>&nbsp;serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>