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<DIV>In response to your question: Gary wrote his first message
yesterday afternoon. Shirley was campaigning in Genesee all afternoon and
into the evening. She came home and her family treated her to a birthday
dinner at a local restaurant. I told her about Gary’s redundant messages
about 9:00PM. She responded early this AM. She has a life
outside the parameters of V2020. I would think most people would find hers
a timely response. </DIV>
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<DIV>Sue Hovey</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=deco@moscow.com
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:29 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Rozen editorial</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Gary raises two issues:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>In reverse:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>1. Shirley did not respond to a concern that
Gary, one of her constituents raised on V 2000, a public forum, and one where
Shirley posted an opinion about responding to all constituents and becoming
cognizant of their concerns.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I think that Shirley should have made/should make a response
to Gary. Maybe she did, and maybe she hit the wrong key which caused the
blank response (it's happened to me). If she is unaware that she sent an
empty response, then someone should inform her so that she can correct
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2. Gary writes:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri><FONT color=#0000ff>"My point is why would be want to
send to Boise someone whose views differed so jarringly with those of the
majority of the districts residents and who would be so totally out of step with
Idaho's sporting heritage</FONT>?"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>There are many issues at stake in this (and generally in most
elections). Perhaps a candidate's position on weapon control/laws is a
litmus test for some part of the electorate; it appears to be to so for
Gary. Others may have different litmus tests, but hopefully most
voters will base their decision after learning a candidate's position a wide
variety of issues.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Further, not all sportspersons/hunters/etc are completely in
accord with the extreme positions of the NRA. Some oppose allowing the use
of automatic or even semi-automatic weapons for hunting purposes. Some
even oppose the possession of such weapons for any purposes except by law
enforcement officers and military personnel. Among sportspersons and all
the rest of Idaho citizens there is a great diversity of views on weapon
control/laws and weapon possession, and there is a great diversity of views on
the relative importance of that issue for a state legislator.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>It would be rare to find any voter completely in agreement on
all issues with any candidate since we are dealing with a wide variety of and
nuances of values and beliefs about so-called factual matters whose
probabilities of truth are not certain. I will vote for Shirley in this
elections for reasons that should be obvious, and in the past have given her
campaigns financial support. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>But there are many issues upon which Shirley and I disagree
with various degrees of intensity. </FONT><FONT size=2>Our areas of
agreement/disagreement and the reasons she gives for her positions make her and
will continue to make her a much more thoughtful and informed legislator more in
tune with my values and beliefs and I think with the majority of the electorate
of her legislative district.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR>Wayne A. Fox<BR>1009 Karen Lane<BR>PO Box 9421<BR>Moscow, ID
83843</DIV>
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<DIV><A href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</A><BR>208
882-7975<BR></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jampot@roadrunner.com href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">Gary
Crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ophite@gmail.com
href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">Andreas Schou</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:24
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Rozen
editorial</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>I thought I made it clear that her
opportunities to make trouble for Idaho's firearms owners would be few and far
between and that should any arise, her lonely and ineffective voice would be
unlikely to win any over to her cause . My point is why would be want to send
to Boise someone whose views differed so jarringly with those of the majority
of the districts residents and who would be so totally out of step with
Idaho's sporting heritage?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>All of this overlooks the larger
question which continues to be, why is she "killing democracy" by refusing to
respond to the question on this relevant topic?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>Despite all her posturing, I guess
expecting answers to a voters request for information must be the
exclusive right of those on the left.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ophite@gmail.com
href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">Andreas Schou</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 30, 2010 8:48 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A
title="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">Gary Crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=ringoshirl@moscow.com
href="mailto:ringoshirl@moscow.com">ringoshirl</A> ; <A
title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Rozen editorial</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>Gary,
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<DIV>Presuming the worst, what is the actual capacity for a state senator
(esp. in a Republican-dominated state) to deal damage to your second amendment
rights? Understand that Heller and McDonald currently stand in the way of all
but the most common-sense restrictions. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-- ACS<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Gary Crabtree <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</A>></SPAN>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>While we wait patiently for Ms. Ringo
to summon up the courage and the rhetoric to respond to my inquiry why don't
we </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>take a look at what an F grade
entails. </FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>From the NRA/PVF web
site:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>F-"True enemy of gun owners' rights. A consistent anti-gun
candidate who always opposes gun owners' rights and/or actively leads
anti-gun legislative efforts, or sponsors anti-gun legislation."</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>Sounds just like what we need in
Boise. Granted the opportunities for her to damage the second
amendment are few and far between but, none the less</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>this hardly seems like values
representative of district 6. Fortunately for hunters and firearms
enthusiasts Ms. Ringo will be spending the lions share of her
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>time in Boise (should we be so
unfortunate as to see her sent back) working on schemes to increase
taxes and searching for ways to express her undying gratitude to
</FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>the unions that are her
biggest supporters:</FONT></DIV>
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<H3>Idaho Education Association</H3>
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<H3>Idaho AFL-CIO</H3>
<H3>National Association of Social Workers</H3>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000>I would suggest giving Mr. Young a second
look. I honestly believe that his values are more closely aligned with
those of the voters in Latah Co.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000>than those of "The progressive from
six."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000>g</FONT></DIV></DIV></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=jampot@roadrunner.com
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com" target=_blank>Gary Crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 30, 2010 6:12 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ringoshirl@moscow.com
href="mailto:ringoshirl@moscow.com" target=_blank>ringoshirl</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Rozen editorial</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>That strikes me as a Democracy killing
non response to a perfectly valid question. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:ringoshirl@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:ringoshirl@moscow.com" target=_blank>ringoshirl</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:03 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A
title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank>vision2020@moscow.com</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] Fw: Rozen editorial</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=ringoshirl@moscow.com
href="mailto:ringoshirl@moscow.com" target=_blank>ringoshirl</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A
title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank>vision2020@moscow.com</A>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:36 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Rozen editorial</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Visionaries:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>As you might imagine, I think Mr. Rozen missed
the point. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>In any event, I think I know him better than
before.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Shirley</FONT></DIV>
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