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Here's the Readers' Digest version:<br><br>-Don't let them in your house<br><br>-Don't answer any questions<br><br>Saundra, you didn't have to answer any questions. Your husband could have simply said that he wasn't going to wake you up, and you weren't going to talk to the detective then. If he wanted to talk to you, he could come back later. Or you could simply have told him yourself you weren't going to talk to him. If he showed up at your door unannounced and uninvited, he was treating you as a suspect. Just because your position is that you're innocent doesn't mean that he was going to leave agreeing with you. If he thinks you're a suspect, every inference will be drawn against you in his report. That's why you don't say anything.<br><br>Interesting that speaking your mind and signing your name to your opinion made you a suspect. Boy, no chilling effect on political speech there!<br><br>Sunil <br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">From: deco@moscow.com<br>To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:59:10 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Head's Up: Sheriff's Office<br><br>
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<div><font size="2">As part of their job investigators need to follow
leads and ask questions within reason.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">I long ago learned from a legal counsel (who, during the time
I knew him, never lost a jury trial -- in part because of his detailed, expert
knowledge of law and case law) some simple rules to follow/conditions to be
observed when interdicted by law enforcement. Here are some of
them.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">If you receive a visit from a law enforcement officer which
you did not initiate:</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">Do not let them in your home or any outbuilding unless they
have a search warrant. </font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">Ask the officers for their identification and
ask for a business card. Failure to produce both should lead you to
terminate the interview and to ask them to leave your property/premises
immediately.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">Ask if the interview is being recorded. Judge the
truthfulness of the reply. If you suspect untruthfulness or evasion, then
terminate the interview and to ask them to leave your property/premises
immediately. If you have a recorder, excuse yourself, get the recorder,
and record the interview.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">Ask them to explain the exact purpose of their visit and why
you are the subject of the interview. If you suspect untruthfulness or a
purposely incomplete explanation, then terminate the interview and to ask them
to leave your property/premises immediately.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">Talk to them outside until you are absolutely sure of the
purpose of their visit and that you are sure you are not the subject of an
investigation in any way. Beware of off-subject questions. If
questions occur during the course of the interview which lead you to believe
that their original explanation of their visit was not accurate or complete,
then terminate the interview and to ask them to leave your property/premises
immediately.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">Do <strong>not</strong> lie to law enforcement officers.
That is a crime.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">If it appears that you might possibly be being interrogated
because your are a possible suspect or person of interest, then refuse to answer
any questions, and ask the officers to leave your property
immediately. Add also that should you receive a properly executed and
served subpoena, you will appear in court in answer to such and act in
accordance with the law -- that would make arresting you as a material
witness a very risky business.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">My property is posted to keep out hunters, crackpots,
etc. Such posting applies also to any police agency unless they have legal
process, have been called by the ourselves, made an appointment, or there is a
genuine emergency which needs access to my property or ourselves in order
to respond quickly and correctly.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">Having a lawful society is very important and unless there is
a possibility of harm to oneself, one should generally be glad to assist law
enforcement. Most of the time their actions are legal, and are motivated
by reasonable, objective, professional concerns. But n</font><font size="2">ot always, as some of us have found out from our own and other's
experience.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">There are some troubling aspects of the visit to Saundra by
the LCSO.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">An appointment should have been made. Someone may not be
available (like out of town), they may be sick, engaged in activities which they
do not wish to interrupt, or, like Saundra, asleep. Hence, it is not only
just courtesy at issue, but the possibility of wasting time and taxpayer
money.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">It is not professional for an officer not to have a business
card, especially someone who alleges they are a detective. You need to
know and to keep a material record of whom you are dealing
with.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">Was Anderson truthful in saying that his call was motivated by
Saundra's postings on V 2020? </font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">If so that would be really scary. Not only would that be
a violation of Saundra civil rights, but would send an intimidating message
that one should not criticize a political figure with views similar to another
religious crackpot to whom Sheriff Rausch in the past has shown great
favoritism -- a religious crackpot who has endorsed Bouma on his
blog. If Saundra was targeted solely because of her public political
views, then the ugly scepter of voter intimidation by law enforcement is alive
in Latah County. Not a pretty sight and one we should all be alarmed
at.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">As Saundra points out, the postcard is an invitation to attend
Freeze Church -- it says that it is not enough to vote for Bouma and McGraw;
hence it already assumes the recipient will do so; hence the exhortations are
for additional religious, not political activity -- a point of law that any
defense counsel will probably argue should anyone be charged with a crime
alleging that laws regarding political material have been broken.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">I would have no problem sending out a mass mailing showing
Bouma's views. But I would sign my name just as I do with all the public
written criticism I have made of Bouma. But to emphasize Saundra's most
telling point: If I wished to do so, I would send out the postcards so
that they would arrive on the Friday, Saturday, or Monday before the
election. </font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">If, on the other hand I were Bouma and wanted
to make my embarrassing, if not crackpot religious and political views
off-limits for the rest of the campaign, raise money on the "poor, poor,
unjustly attacked me" gambit, and also give an excuse for not
answering any impromptu questions, then I would make the timing of
Postcardgate as it happened -- perfect.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">In the case of Postcardgate, the LCSO is in possession of some
of the actual documents. It is amazing what a well-qualified documents
expert can infer from a document and the language on it. It would seem to
me that if it hasn't already happened, one should be called in
ASAP.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Like Saundra, I'd like to see the culprit(s) caught and
exposed before election day.</font></div>
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</font><div><font size="2"><br>Wayne A. Fox<br>1009 Karen Lane<br>PO Box 9421<br>Moscow, ID
83843</font></div>
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<div><font size="2"><a href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</a><br>208
882-7975<br></font></div>
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228);"><b>From:</b>
<a title="v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm" href="mailto:v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm">Saundra
Lund</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'Vision 2020'</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:03
PM</div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Head's Up:
Sheriff's Office</div>
<div><br></div>I just wanted to give a head's up to those here & elsewhere
who have<br>publicly questioned Gresham Bouma's -- and presumably Ike Young's
-- fitness<br>for the offices for which they're running: expect a visit
from Detective<br>Anderson of the Latah County Sheriff's Office.<br><br>I
apparently came to his attention because he's read my V2020 posts,
so<br>others with the guts to speak unfavorably about Bouma's religious
extremism<br>shouldn't be surprised if you, too, get a visit.
Apparently, free<br>expression in Latah County earns the interest of the LCSO
when one's focus<br>is a religious bigot running for office. Your tax
dollars hard at work!<br><br>Be aware that LCSO detectives apparently don't
wear uniforms with badges or<br>carry business cards, so perhaps ask for
identification to verify that the<br>person is who he claims to be, which is
something I didn't think to do. My<br>dh told me afterwards that he
actually saw the patrol car, so I guess I was<br>really talking to a
detective.<br><br>Also be aware that law-abiding tax-paying citizens who have
done nothing<br>wrong other than publicly present & comment on the
religious extremism of<br>political candidates can be rousted out of
bed. Yes, that's what happened<br>to me: I was still in bed deeply
asleep when I got my visit. My dh<br>informed the detective I was
asleep, but that wasn't good enough, if you can<br>believe that. I can
understand dragging people out of bed to arrest them,<br>of course, but to
just ask questions?!?! Tip to the LCSO: getting people<br>out of
bed because you're curious about what they might know isn't a way to<br>make
friends and influence people. You obviously know who I am since
you<br>showed up at my door, so you've got my phone number, too. Not
calling first<br>is just plain rude and not a particularly effective way to
inspire<br>cooperation. With a little advance notice, I might have had
some coffee &<br>cake to offer you :-)<br><br>To me, there seems to
be some real desperation associated with the<br>investigation: the crime
Det. Anderson mentioned to me was that the<br>postcard is being viewed as
campaign material sent without financial<br>disclosure. Now, since I was
rousted out of bed without a chance to even<br>brush my teeth, I didn't laugh
out loud, but please!!! No intelligent<br>person would view that piece
of work as campaign material; if anything, it<br>was a church invitation
designed to appeal to haters. Perhaps we should all<br>be reassured that
there's so little real crime in Latah County law<br>enforcement is looking for
things to make into crimes to keep them busy.<br>Unfortunately, I doubt that's
the case, so I suppose the child molesters and<br>meth makers and other real
criminals are probably glad LCSO is being kept<br>otherwise
occupied.<br><br>Det. Anderson asked where I got the info I've posted, and I
told him: right<br>from Bouma's church's Web site &
newspapers. Sheesh -- it's right there for<br>God & everyone to see
for themselves! It's quite disturbing to me that my<br>attempts to be an
educated voter & share what I've learned & what I think<br>has
apparently made me a suspect or a person of interest or whatever.<br><br>I
also pointed out that had the postcard been a genuine attempt to
torpedo<br>Bouma's campaign, it would have been sent much closer to the
election rather<br>than weeks in advance giving Bouma plenty of time for spin
-- there's no<br>such thing as bad publicity. The timing of PostcardGate
is extremely<br>curious & suspicious to me.<br><br>I said I found it very
interesting that even with a substantial reward<br>offered, no one has come
forward with information. I'm of the belief that<br>*if* the postcard
was a genuine despicable hoax unknown to Bouma's campaign,<br>someone would
have come forward because most people have big mouths,<br>especially when
money is involved.<br><br>I also find in interesting that both Bouma &
Young are now using the mailers<br>as excuses to hide from
we-the-people. Which, needless to say, is yet more<br>black marks
against their fitness to hold elected offices, IMHO.<br><br>I told Det.
Anderson I hope they aren't neglecting to investigate
***all***<br>sides.<br><br>I wished Det. Anderson good luck :-)
Other than his rudeness dragging me<br>out of bed, he seems a pleasant enough
fellow, and I hope he cracks The of<br>Crime of the Decade -- shoot, maybe
even of the century -- right here in<br>Latah County, and I hope he's
successful quickly! Along with everyone else,<br>I'm extremely curious
about who is behind PostcardGate, and I hope the<br>culprit/culprits are
identified ***before*** the election.<br><br><br>FYI,<br>Saundra
Lund<br>Moscow, ID<br><br>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is
for good people to do<br>nothing.<br>~ Edmund Burke<br><br>***** Original
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