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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>Bob,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>Thank you for the humor giving some thoughtful
perspective on the danger of mixing politics and religion. You
write:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>"People follow when
they hear stuff they want to hear, that affirms their fears and hopes.But I
thought that Lord Knerr's religion or church is non-denomination. Are atheists
welcome there, by the way?"</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana><FONT size=3></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana><FONT size=2>Here is the answer direct from the
Freeze Church website:</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana><A
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>Enjoy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>W.</FONT></DIV>
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align=center><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 20px" class=s18>The Constitution and
Bylaws of Freeze Community Church</FONT></H1>
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align=center><BR><STRONG>ARTICLE -- 1. PREAMBLE</STRONG> </P>
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align=left><STRONG>We Believe</STRONG><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>that the Elders of a church are
accountable to God for the purity of the local church and it’s
faithfulness to God’s Word as revealed in the Bible. Therefore, in order
to restore authority in the church to the local leadership and provide a
church body in the Palouse Valley that looks to the Bible as the supreme
authority for doctrine and truth, we establish this statement of faith,
constitution, and bylaws for Freeze Community Church. 1 Peter
5:1--4 </P>
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align=center><BR><BR><STRONG>ARTICLE – 2. PURPOSE</STRONG> </P>
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align=left>The purpose of Freeze Community Church is to provide an
environment where the body of Christ can meet (Hebrews 10:24—25) and to
begin to manifest Jesus Christ in ourselves individually, in the local
church, and in the world as directed in Matthew 28:18—20. </P>
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align=left><STRONG>We Believe</STRONG><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>that the Scriptures are the Word
of God, and our rule of conduct for service and holy lives. The exposition
of His Word and prayerful openness to a fuller understanding of it as the
Holy Spirit illuminates is the basis of our ministry. </P>
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align=left><STRONG>We Believe</STRONG><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>the indwelling Holy Spirit is
that which motivates the Christian to a Christ like life and that our
humanity alone would lead us to darkness. We do have this hope; “To whom
God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among
the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Whom we preach,
warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may
present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.” Colossians 1:27, 28.
(KJV) </P>
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align=left><STRONG>We Believe</STRONG><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>that order is a divine attribute,
that reverence is our due response to a Holy God. Therefore our services
will be orderly and reverent. Singing of hymns and psalms, prayer, Bible
reading, teaching and preaching will constitute our weekly service. The
church gathering will emphasize the maturing of the saints and the
building of the body of Christ. Our evangelistic outreach will be in
homes, neighborhoods, businesses, campuses, and other like places. We will
come together to grow and we will go out to win others to Christ. It is
the obligation of every believer to proclaim the gospel to the community,
our country, and the world. Our harvest field is the world. There is a
great urgency to “contend for the faith” Jude v. 3. This urgency must be
in the spirit of II Timothy 2:24—25, “And the Lord’s servant must not
quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not
resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that
God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth.”
(NIV) </P>
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align=left>The work of the ministry belongs to all Christians. Elders,
deacons, overseers, and other gifted men and women are given to the body
to equip all the saints for the various ministries of the church. I
Corinthians 12:12-31. </P>
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align=center><BR><STRONG>ARTICLE – III. STATEMENT OF FAITH
<BR></STRONG></P>
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align=left><STRONG>We Believe</STRONG><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>the Bible is the verbally
inspired, inerrant Word of God, in the original writings, by which all
things are given to us pertaining to life and godliness (2 Peter 1:3). We
therefore, place great priority on knowing God through the study of His
Word. (2 Timothy 3:16, 2 Peter 1:20-21, Matthew 5:18, John 16:
13) </P>
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align=left><STRONG>We Believe</STRONG><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Scripture must be understood at
face value, in it’s most natural, normal, customary sense, acknowledging
figures of speech, keeping the passage in its proper context, and
considering all other passages of Scripture dealing with the same issue.
Other Scripture will interpret Scripture bringing definitive conclusion.
In seemingly contradictory passages we do not know that we have truth
until the Scriptural common denominator is found that harmonizes all the
passages dealing with a particular issue; not just those that prove a
presupposition at the expense of those that don’t seem to agree. “Once the
common denominator is found, then we have truth, but not before. Once we
have truth, that truth stands in judgment of us; never do we stand in
judgment of it!” (Understanding Scripture at Face Value, page 23, Robert
Van Kampen) </P>
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align=left><STRONG>We Believe</STRONG><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>the Lord Jesus Christ, the
eternal Son of God, without ceasing to be God, became man by the Holy
Spirit and virgin birth. He died at Calvary as a satisfactory sacrifice
for sinners and His body was buried in and arose from the tomb. He
ascended to Heaven and is glorified at God’s right hand and is coming
again for His own. (John 1:1, Matthew 1:20-23, 2 Corinthians 5:21, Hebrews
1:3, Hebrews 10:12, 2 Timothy 2:8, John 14:1—3) </P>
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align=left><STRONG>We Believe</STRONG><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>salvation is the gift of God
given to each individual by grace and received only through personal
repentance for sin and faith in the person and finished work of the
atoning blood of Jesus Christ. (Ephesians 1:7, Ephesians 2:1-10, John
1:12, Luke 5:32, Acts 2:38) </P>
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align=left><STRONG>We Believe</STRONG><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>the church, local and universal
is a spiritual organism composed of the regenerated into the body of
Christ by the Holy Spirit at the time of the new birth. The local church
is the manifestation of His body and has the responsibility to provide for
the fellowship, discipling and edification of believers. The propagation
of the Gospel in all the world is the responsibility of the church.
(Romans 12:4—5, Matt. 28:18—20) </P>
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align=center><BR><STRONG>ARTICLE – IV. MEMBERSHIP</STRONG> </P>
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align=left>Freeze Community Church believes that when one accepts Jesus
Christ as Savior, God places that person in the Church (I Corinthians
12:18). Salvation is the criteria for membership in this congregation. One
maintains membership in this congregation by participating in the worship
services and fellowship of the congregation. Doctrinal variations will not
be a consideration unless that doctrine is considered heretical or
divisive in the church. Where Scriptures are not specific we will display
no dogma. </P>
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align=center><BR><BR><STRONG>ARTICLE – V. CHURCH GOVERNMENT</STRONG> </P>
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align=justify>Freeze Community Church will recognize those Elders who have
the qualities and desire to serve as an Overseer. These men make up the
leadership of the F.C.C. (Acts 20:17 & 28). Our recognition of
Overseers is for our local body of believers. Any recognition outside of
our body is an even greater honor. </P>
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align=justify><STRONG>We Believe</STRONG><SPAN
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overseers are set forth in I Timothy 3: 7-12 and Titus 1:5-9. Compositely
they are: above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate,
self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to
drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of
money, managing his own family well and seeing that his children obey him
with proper respect, not a recent convert, of good reputation with
outsiders, his wife is to be a woman worthy of respect, not a malicious
talker but temperate and trustworthy in everything; he must hold to the
trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others
by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it . (NIV) </P>
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align=justify>In Titus 1:5 we find that Elders are to be appointed to the
office of Overseer and will be done in light of the person’s qualities.
Our reference to Overseer refers to elder men designated and commissioned
by the Church Council to serve in an official capacity in the local
church. Certainly many of the admonitions to the Elders apply not only to
the overseers, but also to all older men. </P>
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align=justify>The function of the office of Overseer is twofold: 1)
teaching and 2) executive leadership. An overseer is to teach the Word of
God and give direction on how to apply that teaching to the local church.
“Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof,
not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready
mind; Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being examples to
the flock. 1Peter 5:2-3 (KJV) </P>
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align=justify>In I Timothy 3:1 we find that it is not only good to desire
the office of Overseer, but that the office is “a good work”. </P>
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align=justify>The term Pastor and Shepherd are synonymous and Acts 20:28
indicates all Elders are to shepherd the church of God. </P>
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align=justify>F.C.C. recognizes the pastoral leadership of all Elders.
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=philosopher.joe@gmail.com
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 23, 2010 5:30
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Postcardgate
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<DIV><BR></DIV>I've just got to play devil's advocate...<BR><BR>[WARNING:
People with jobs or have actual responsibilites or are short on time should
avoid reading this posting.]<BR><BR>> Gresham Bouma’s situation got me
thinking about false religions.<BR>> <BR><BR>Any religion that is not my
religion is a false religion. When I was an active Catholic, I could get stuck
in purgatory after my death for a gazillion years (or more...but who's
counting at that point?) if I but set foot in some other denomination's church
on Sunday. That's because anything other than the Catholic Church is a false
religion. At least that's what we were taught when I was a kid. But.. doesn't
that seem silly?<BR><BR>> I know I may not be too popular with some of you
for my stance, but I<BR>> think Bouma’s Freeze Community Church is as
dangerous to America as<BR>> the infiltration of our society by Islam and
Sharia Law.<BR>> <BR><BR>Infiltration? Now... you don't really believe that
do you? By the way, what about belief in Bokonon? I think we'd better
investigate the rising tide of Bokononism. And just why do they call it the
'Freeze' Church? Do they have a stash of that Ice-9 stuff or something? Pretty
suspicious if you ask me.<BR><BR>> Bouma says that his campaign is not a
political gathering, but a call<BR>> to return to God and His Laws, the
Laws that this nation was founded<BR>> on. On the surface, a Christian
could hardly be opposed to that call.<BR>> <BR><BR>Yeah. Thank God he only
has about 10 laws, which will simplify many of our court decisions. I say AT
LEAST 10 laws because, according to Mel Brooks in The History of The World
Part I, there were more laws, but Moses accidentally broke the third stone
tablet after descending Mt. Sinai.]<BR><BR>> But what god is Bouma calling
America to return to? Certainly he’s not<BR>> calling us to return to the
God of the bible.<BR>> <BR><BR>People of faith will recognize that we never
left God. He is just in 'standby' mode. Push the play button again and God
will be back with us in full.<BR><BR>> <BR>> Bouma’s god was once a
human being just like you or I.<BR><BR>Uh oh... then we really are
doomed.<BR><BR>> I could go on<BR>> and on about the blasphemy and the
heresy of Bouma's<BR>> non-denominational Freeze Community Church, but
suffice it to say that<BR>> when Bouma tells you that you serve the same
god that he does, he’s a<BR>> liar.<BR>> <BR><BR>He just THINKS we serve
the same God (oh... be sure capitalize God when you refer to <A
href="mailto:X73&S@#$">X73&S@#$</A> (name changed to avoid being
struck by lighning)). I think the god some folks worship in the conservative
party is named with a single symbol, the $ (dollar) sign. So, there are other
gods out there that are worthy of our prasie, especially when those sales are
announced at Walmart. (to be fair, I've know some Democrats and Independents
who also praised the $).<BR><BR>> I am appalled at the number of Christians
who follow Bouma’s pastor,<BR>> Lloyd Knerr, <BR><BR>People follow when
they hear stuff they want to hear, that affirms their fears and hopes.But I
thought that Lord Knerr's religion or church is non-denomination. Are atheists
welcome there, by the way?<BR><BR>> <BR>> If you think a man’s religion
doesn’t make any difference, the day<BR>> will come when you will realize
that you have been sadly mistaken.<BR>> <BR><BR>That's why Bokononism is
the only way to go. Trust me on that one. I'm really not sure about
Catholicism these days.<BR><BR>> I would guess that 90% of those who attend
Bouma’s non-denominational<BR>> Freeze Community Church would call
themselves Christian. If that’s<BR>> true, the church in America today is
in greater danger than I ever<BR>> believed.<BR><BR>What is 'the church' in
America? I hope our citizens still recognize that we welcome all religions.
There is no 'the church'. Unless of course, the reference is to the Catholic
church. Then... ok.<BR>> <BR>> The true Jesus says that in the last
days, many will be deceived. I<BR>> pray that you will not be one of
them.<BR>> <BR><BR>But... this suggests that we are now in 'the last days.'
Huh? I keep hearing that. In fact, I have trouble counting how many times I've
lived through the predicted end of the World. Well, I suppose, philosophically
speaking, we are forever in 'the last days'. How long are 'the last days?' I
million years? 3 billion years? When is the sun going to explode anyway? I
forget. God... I lose sleep just thinking about that... when the sun explodes.
It's going to, you know. Any time now. And, by God, I'm a Catholic, so I'll be
ready. <BR><BR>Bob Dickow, troublemaker<BR><BR>P.S. You were
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