<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div>I heard this as well-- that the MPD chose not to bid on that portion of the contract. Anyone got an inside source at the city to verify?<br><br>Ron Force<br>Moscow ID USA<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Wayne Price <bear@moscow.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Saundra Lund <v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wed, August 18, 2010 10:35:13 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Security Contract<br></font><br>
<meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="off">Saundra,<div><br></div><div>What really amazed me was that the recent press quotes from the University President implies that it was the City of Moscow that didn't want the "security" part of the contract. </div><div><br></div><div>Has anyone got a reading on this from the city? I'm pretty sure that with another 300 to 400k tossed into the contract, the City could have sent up some sort of adaptation</div><div>that would have met the Universities needs. So, if what Dr. Nellis alleges is true, why did the city not try to be a bit more creative for an additional 300 - 400k? </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 18, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Saundra Lund wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica;
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="WordSection1" style=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Wayne, it’s even crazier: my understanding (from experts in the field) is that hiring AlliedBarton is sheer fiscal irresponsibility. Why? Because<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>if</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>the UI is concerned about the alcohol related deaths and injuries at the frat houses, those frat houses are on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>private property</b>, so the AB guards won’t be able to stick a toe onto that private property
without invitation, something that’s apparently common knowledge in the nation’s higher ed community of security & safety professionals. This is why historically private security companies like AlliedBarton are relegated to “property protection” roles and staffing desks at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>university-owned</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>housing to check who goes in & out of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>university-owned</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>property.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I suppose if each property owner negotiated with AB to
provide services, the story would be different. What do you think the odds are that’s going to happen???</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Now, if anyone has information to the contrary, please share because while the experts I’ve spoken with are very familiar with safety & security issues on college campuses, they don’t have knowledge about the UI specifically. Does the UI own the frat & sorority houses around campus or are they the property of the nationals?</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">
</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Saundra Lund</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Moscow, ID</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">~ Edmund Burke</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2010 through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written
permission of the author.*****</span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top: 1pt solid rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow"
ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Art Deco<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:34 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vision2020] Security Contract</span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"> </div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Here's part of what I don't understand about the UI security issue: If this was an open bid process, what was left to negotiate/discuss, let alone negotiate/discuss in secret? Shouldn't the bid terms have clearly spelled everything out? If not, then the bid process needs to be done again, correctly (which excludes Lloyd Mues).</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"> </div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I fail to see how unarmed security personnel are going to help with the alcohol problem which allegedly is part of the motivation. These unfortunate pseudocops are very likely to end up being great objects of ridicule and pranking especially if they to concentrate on the Greek community as has been alleged. [That's what has happened
elsewhere.] </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"> </div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">The alcohol problem has many facets including the need for an intelligent (perhaps too much to expect now from the present UI personnel concerned) and very persistent, deep reaching education and prevention program. More enforcement is clearly needed. Why not leave that further enforcement to the professionals, the MPD, with a little help with closer communication, and not with a security firm [AlliedBarton] which simple Googling shows are much less than stellar in performance and integrity.</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"> </div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><br>Wayne A. Fox<br>1009 Karen Lane<br>PO Box 9421<br>Moscow, ID 83843</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:waf@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:waf@moscow.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">waf@moscow.com</a><br>208 882-7975</span></div></div></div> =======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br><span> <a target="_blank"
href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> <br> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================</div></span></blockquote></div><br></div><meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="on"></div></div>
</div><br>
</body></html>