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<DIV><FONT size=2>Contrary to some statements in this thread, I am among those
concerned not only with local environmental issues, but with large scale
environmental issues and with big oil.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Previous posted to Tom Trail early in July:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Here are some links that may aid in learning more about the
Alberta oil/tar sands, especially the China connection. Why should Idaho
roads be used to help create an environmental disaster far greater than the
current BP disaster, and to make China (and France), not the U.S. and Canada
richer?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>It's time for our country to invest private and public
resources into developing large scale solar energy generation and storage
source, just like the space race program in the 50's and 60's. That will
help us wean off foreign oil and make it easier to oppose horrible plans like
the oil/tar sands.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><A
href="http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2010/06/24/alberta’s-tar-sands-a-slow-motion-equivalent-of-the-gulf-disaster/">http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2010/06/24/alberta%E2%80%99s-tar-sands-a-slow-motion-equivalent-of-the-gulf-disaster/</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><A
href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/05/22/CHINA.TMP">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/05/22/CHINA.TMP</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><A
href="http://www.greenfudge.org/2010/02/17/tar-sands-china-invests-in-canadian-oil-as-u-s-moves-out/">http://www.greenfudge.org/2010/02/17/tar-sands-china-invests-in-canadian-oil-as-u-s-moves-out/</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><A
href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8231006.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8231006.stm</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><A
href="http://www.tarsandswatch.org/chinas-oil-sands-push">http://www.tarsandswatch.org/chinas-oil-sands-push</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><A
href="http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/5605227-alberta-oil-sands-deal-gives-china-veto-rights-on-oil-exports">http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/5605227-alberta-oil-sands-deal-gives-china-veto-rights-on-oil-exports</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>If you Google: Alberta oil tar sands china
or Alberta oil tar sands environment</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>you will find hundreds of articles, some clearly not only
scary from an environmental viewpoint, but from the specter of China gaining
more wealth and power at great costs to the U.S. and Canada.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>We need to stop these shipments that have very little benefit
to the U.S. but bode great future losses, but huge gains for China, an
environmentally insensitive country of enormous power.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Every day this last week in Canada the business sections of
the newspapers were full of news and OP/ED articles about the oil/tar sands and
the huge foreign investments (China and France) who give not a whit about
causing environmental problems of great magnitude far from their
homelands.</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>A number of us are working with Tom Trail to amend and to
improve the state statutes dealing with certain kinds of highway
loads.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>The following is part of a post that I sent dealing with this
issue and the corresponding national interests issue:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Tom,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>In my remarks about the draft ordinance, I did not
address the following issue, although in the longer term it is an important
one.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>The present huge proposal to aid in the trans-shipping of
essential machinery for the Alberta tar sands is certainly not in the best
interests of the United States.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>As you know from links I previously sent you, China is by far
the biggest investor in the Alberta tar sands projects -- billions and
billions of dollars of investment. They now have the controlling interest,
and now can dictate to whom the oil produced is sold to and for how
much.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>This is not in our interest. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>China is now the most potent economic force in the world
having taken our place a few years ago. They are our competition, and have
shown via their currency policies, their manufacturing of unlicensed knock-offs,
etc that they are cutthroat and unscrupulous. Hence, we ought not be
aiding them to so us more harm, especially by helping them develop energy
sources the products of which can be sold to us at gouging prices (and thus
weakening our competitive ability in the global and national
marketplace) and at the cost of great environmental damage to North
America.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>There ought be a way via statute to deny permits for processes
that are not in the best interests of our country. We need to think about
a way to do this before any final draft of the statute at issue is
completed.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR>Wayne A. Fox<BR>1009 Karen Lane<BR>PO Box 9421<BR>Moscow, ID
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882-7975<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=thansen@moscow.com href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=godshatter@yahoo.com
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">'Paul Rumelhart'</A> ; <A
title=bear@moscow.com href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">'Wayne Price'</A> ; <A
title=MoscowCares@moscow.com
href="mailto:MoscowCares@moscow.com">MoscowCares@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=Vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">'Moscow Vision 2020'</A> ; <A
title=jeannemchale@hotmail.com href="mailto:jeannemchale@hotmail.com">'Jeanne
McHale'</A> ; <A title=chicory@wildblue.net
href="mailto:chicory@wildblue.net">chicory@wildblue.net</A> ; <A
title=ponysnpups@gmail.com href="mailto:ponysnpups@gmail.com">'Kathy
Judson'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Sometimes the
Good Guys Win (even if it'sjust temporary)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Paul Rumelhart, without substantiation,
stated:<BR><BR>"Everybody seems to be looking to this as a 'win' for the 'good
guys'<BR>because we are in effect sticking it to Big Oil."<BR><BR>Wrong, Mr.
Rumelhart. My concern, as well as everybody else with whom I<BR>have
spoken, relates to the potential for serious damage, not only to
the<BR>highway, but the environment if an accident were to happen.<BR><BR>Take
a look at:<BR><BR><A
href="http://www.MoscowCares.com/Highway12">http://www.MoscowCares.com/Highway12</A><BR><BR>Nowhere
does it even imply that people are upset with "Big Oil". Can you<BR>even
begin to imagine the damage, and the costs related to repairing
that<BR>damage, if a road or bridge were to collapse under the pressure of
cargo<BR>(six feet wider than the road) weighing 200 tons.<BR><BR>Do you see
what I'm saying?<BR><BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow,
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