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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu
href="mailto:reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu">Reggie Holmquist</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=techsupport@fsr.com
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title=vision2020@moscow.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 15, 2010 2:00
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Facebook; The
death of Vision 2020?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I'm still unclear as to what the point of V2020 is. I may
be the only person here under 30 and I only found out about this place through
word of mouth because I specifically asked a politically connected local
individual if there are any local blogs or message boards. I don't think
I would have found it otherwise (I did searches for local moscow politics and
V2020 does not come up). But I can't weigh in at all on this topic
because I don't know what the goal of V2020 is. Is it to grow the
community? To be a media platform? To spur people to action?
To be a discussion platform until it dies out b/c noone knows about it and
noone wants to use this ancient messaging platform?<BR><BR>It just sucks, b/c
I see major potential here and it seems like some of that potential might be
being wasted. But, again, it all just depends on what the goal of this
place is.<BR><BR>-Reggie<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Donovan Arnold <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Sue,</DIV>
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<DIV>I think we all have someone like that in our family : )</DIV>
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<DIV>People often don't realize what they are missing without
taking advantage of new technologies. </DIV>
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<DIV>I think Vision 2020 is going the same way as the post letter. It
is sad too because V2020 can be a great media if it would change to a
modern format. </DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan Arnold</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 8/15/10, Sue Hovey <I><<A
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com"
target=_blank>suehovey@moscow.com</A>></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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Sue <SPAN>Hovey</SPAN> <<A href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com"
target=_blank>suehovey@moscow.com</A>>
<DIV class=im><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Facebook; The death of
Vision 2020?<BR></DIV>To: "keely emerinemix" <<A
href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com"
target=_blank>kjajmix1@msn.com</A>>, <A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>, <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020@moscow.com</A>
<DIV class=im><BR>Cc: <A href="mailto:webmaster@fsr.com"
target=_blank>webmaster@fsr.com</A>, <A
href="mailto:services@fsr.com" target=_blank>services@fsr.com</A>,
<A href="mailto:techsupport@fsr.com"
target=_blank>techsupport@fsr.com</A><BR></DIV>Date: Sunday, August
15, 2010, 1:07 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>I, too, have a Facebook page and I
almost never go on it. I should, I know, but it's just easier
for me to get my email and read what I want to and delete what I
don't. I do realize Donovan is certainly correct in his
conjecture that younger folks may well find the Viz antiquated and
want something new. I actually have some sense of that
feeling, as my husband won't even consider email so I'm always
having to print things he might want to read, and as they are
printing, I'm thinking, "Damnit, Norman if you would move just a
tiny bit into the 20th Century...nevermind the 21st."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>Sue H</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=kjajmix1@msn.com
href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kjajmix1@msn.com"
rel=nofollow target=_blank>keely emerinemix</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:44 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"
rel=nofollow target=_blank>donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com"
rel=nofollow target=_blank>vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
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href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=webmaster@fsr.com"
rel=nofollow target=_blank>webmaster@fsr.com</A> ; <A
title=services@fsr.com
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rel=nofollow target=_blank>techsupport@fsr.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Facebook; The death of Vision
2020?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I'm on vacation and haven't bothered to read all of
the other posts regarding the supposed ease of Facebook over that of
Vision 2020, but I have a couple of thoughts:<BR><BR>One, the people
at First Step have been remarkably generous in providing the
I-don't-know-what-to-call-it technology that enables us to have a
"Vision 2020," and no discussion of its future should take place
without acknowledging the debt all of us who have been active on
this forum owe to First Step. I've made some precious friends
on this forum, and quite a few enemies, but I can't imagine my
last several years in Moscow without Vision 2020. <BR><BR>Two,
I'm one of those dinosaurs who has a Facebook page with nothing on
it because it seems like an unnecessarily complicated mode of
conversing, and because I prefer, still, to talk one-on-one with
people via email. Even the group emails I send, I send to
people with whom I'd be sitting around having a beer if they all
lived in Moscow. And I realize I'm in the minority here;
Facebook certainly has taken off and done quite well without
me. I am not at all interested in what I see as the "instant
intimacy," or at least the indiscriminate intimacy, of Facebook or
MySpace. I'm blessed to have a great many acquaintances, a lot
of pals, a few friends, and just a handful of intimates -- those
people with whom I discuss, and from whom I hear, things that by
their precious nature aren't something I or they want to plaster
across a constantly-changing electronic billboard like
Facebook. I understand I'm not in the cultural mainstream
here, but my Luddite tendencies suit me well.<BR><BR>Three, I think
there are others like me who want to continue discussing the things
we all discuss on Vision without revealing much more of ourselves
than the content of our posts. Maybe I just don't get it --
gee, could it be? -- but I want my participation on Vision 2020 to
reveal nothing about me other than what I have to say on a given
subject. I don't have the time, energy, or inclination to wade
through the "I just ate some yogurt," "OMG, did you see Hell's
Kitchen last night?" and "My Favorite 25 Punk Songs" musings of
other people, and (except for the 25 punk songs) I can't imagine
anyone would want to go through mine -- unless they were close
friends, in which case they'd either already know, or they'd get an
email, phone call, or letter from me. The advantage of Vision
is, to me, its existence as a stand-alone feature/forum that pretty
much means "When you're in, you're in for this, nothing else"
-- No offers to extend body parts I don't have, no garbage
from people who think the supreme expression of my devotion to God
is to hit "Send" to 10 other people, and no emails from friends who
have no idea what to think about Highway 12 because they live in
Virginia. It's Vision 2020, all about Vision 2020, all the
time. I like that.<BR><BR>Now I'll read the other posts, or
not, and do so knowing that I've confirmed my status as someone as
overwhelmed by technology as Doug Wilson would be by a gaggle of
ordained women Reformed intellectuals at a conference on female
Pentecostal history. Yeah, that bad.<BR><BR><FONT
color=#8064a2><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size=3><FONT
face=Verdana>Keely<BR><A href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com"
target=_blank>www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</A><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:31:18 -0700<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>CC: <A
href="mailto:webmaster@fsr.com" target=_blank>webmaster@fsr.com</A>;
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target=_blank>services@fsr.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:techsupport@fsr.com"
target=_blank>techsupport@fsr.com</A><BR>Subject: [Vision2020]
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<DIV>I believe, that Vision 2020, that hasn't changed its
low-tech format since 1994, which is both annoying and
unnecessarily inconvenient to use by its subscribers, will be
replaced by another Internet company or reputable company or
organization that establishes such a forum on Facebook or
similar network. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sure, anyone could establish a Palouse Forum, but people
would be more likely to join a forum created by First Step
Internet that uses the same name. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Image a Vision 2020 that took only moments to skim
through instead of opening and closing each email, or getting
one at the end of the day after the conversation is
over. You could post links, images, and information much
more quickly. And perhaps the best things of all would be that
people could not use your name in postings or false names to
launch personal attacks against members of the community.
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>A Facebook account would be more meaningful and helpful
to a community that wished to grow and be productive with its
online networking. It would also be of better service to
facilitate the purpose and mission of Vision
2020. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Vision 2020 will eventually be replaced, the
question is how it will be replaced, and by what entity. I
hope it is still First Step Internet. But I don't see it
making any moves to save Vision 2020 and keep ownership
of its own idea of an uncensored soap box forum to
facilitate change in the Palouse Community. </DIV>
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