<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">I'd characterize it as a tricky engineering problem with disastrous side effects that they were ill-equipped to handle. <br><br>I'd like to see them come out with some new guidelines for off-shore drilling. Require them to drill an almost-complete relief well *before* they start pumping oil out, and require them to have the required materials and equipment to complete the relief well and cap it in the event of a well breach. Don't try to fix it, don't try to save as much oil as you can, just cap it and move on to drill another well somewhere. Then remove all limits on their liability to give them the incentive to follow the guidelines.<br><br>If there is a problem, they write that well off with a much lower liability and the side-effects are limited to hopefully a small number of
hours of oil escaping the well. They can then go on to drill a well next to it if they want to, as long as the follow the guidelines.<br><br>Paul<br><div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> whayman@roadrunner.com; starbliss@gmail.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, July 1, 2010 6:29:16 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] "Five Thousand Gulf Oil Spills" 168 Responses<br></font><br>
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Good point, Warren. I don't believe there's a word to adequately convey the magnitude of what happened here. "Spill" is what happens when I knock over my glass of Cabernet. This is not that, and what's happened in the Gulf isn't a "mishap" or "error," either. It's a horror, a grievous disaster, and an unmitigated tragedy. That it may not be a crime in no way reflects any lessening of its severity, only decades of governmental indifference to environmental concerns.<br><br><font style="" color="#8064a2"><font style="font-size: 12pt;" size="3"><font style="" face="Verdana">Keely<br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a><br></font></font></font><br><br><br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">From: whayman@roadrunner.com<br>To: starbliss@gmail.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:51:20 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "Five Thousand Gulf Oil Spills" 168
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<div>I think we should try to keep our vocabulary in line with actuality. The
Gulf oil disaster/irruption is not a spill. Such a term possibly reflects a
misunderstanding of both magnitude and geology.</div>
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That’s the rate that people are releasing carbon to the atmosphere from
fossil fuel combustion and deforestation today. I know, it’s apples and
oranges; carbon in the form of oil is more immediately toxic to the
environment than it is as CO<sub>2</sub> (although CO<sub>2</sub> may be more
damaging on geologic time scales). But think of it — five thousand spills like
in the Gulf of Mexico, all going at once, each releasing 40,000 barrels a day,
every day for decades and centuries on end. We are burning a lot of
carbon!<br></div>
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