<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ron,<div><br></div><div>Just one question. IF IDOT says no, what alternative is there? </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Wayne</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:48 PM, Ron Force wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">From an article in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-style: italic; ">The Missoulian:</span><br>"The oil company seeks permission to haul 207 loads that are taller than a three-story building, as wide as a two-lane highway and 75 yards long. The so-called "high and wide corridor" would enter Montana at Lolo Pass."<br><br>From the description, this picture is probably accurate:<br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://wolves.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/tar-sands-protest/">http://wolves.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/tar-sands-protest/</a></span><br><br>Ron Force<br>Moscow ID USA<br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Bill London <<a href="mailto:london@moscow.com">london@moscow.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ringoshirl <<a href="mailto:ringoshirl@moscow.com">ringoshirl@moscow.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Cc:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>vision2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tue, June 8, 2010 12:20:19 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vision2020] Highway 12<br></font><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Arial" size="2">S-</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks for your interest in this Highway 12 oil-equipment issue.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Arial" size="2">I am trying to understand the size of these loads.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Arial" size="2">I saw a photo that supposedly placed a loaded logging truck next to one of the loads --and the oil equipment load was easily 20 times the size of the logging truck. But, it could have been a photo-shop scam.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Arial" size="2">Do you have access to any photos that provide a clear sense of the size of these loads, like placed in comparison to another vehicle?</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Arial" size="2">BL</font></div><blockquote style="border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-image: none; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: 0% 0%; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" title="ringoshirl@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:ringoshirl@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ringoshirl@moscow.com">ringoshirl</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" title="vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:22 AM</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Vision2020] Highway 12</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Arial" size="2">Visionaries:</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; "><font face="Calibri">Regarding the US Highway 12 transport of equipment:</font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; "><font face="Calibri">According to Idaho Code, the Department of Transportation decision for issuing a permit is mostly engineering-based.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span> </span>The state of Montana has more restrictive laws with respect to issuing permits.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>According to the Department of Transportation, Idaho’s process involves such details as examining loads, clearance, and dealing with convenience to the public.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>One major concern would involve the removal of one of these huge barrels should there be an accident that would, for example, put it in the river.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span> </span>I wondered about Idaho approved routes for heavy trucks, but this does not apply to US highways.</font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; "><font face="Calibri">According to the Department of Transportation representative to whom I spoke, Conoco-Phillips and EXXON-Mobile have agreed to hold public meetings to discuss the plans.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>They will probably be held in Lewiston and Kooskia, and will be announced in the paper.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>The Idaho Department of Transportation has not yet issues the permit.</font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0in; "><font face="Calibri">Shirley RIngo</font></p></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>=======================================================<br> List services made available by First Step Internet,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================</blockquote></div></div></div><br>=======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br> <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> <br> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================</div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>