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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'>Paul’s
post is quite timely. Yesterday evening the Chamber of Commerce had a
get-together with the leadership of Idaho National Laboratory. Councilman
Brown and I met with Rear Admiral Art Clark (ret.), who is one of the directors
of nuclear support and production, and we learned more about nuclear energy and
using waste products in breeder reactors in the ten minutes we got to visit
with him than I did in my entire college career. Of course, I majored in
Agricultural Education, so that could have some bearing . . .</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'>Anyhow, it
was very interesting to learn how INL is trying to leapfrog ahead by researching
the state-of-the-art nuclear reactors. We need to get past the bad juju we
feel when we hear the word “nuclear” (no matter how you pronounce
it) and listen to (and fund) the experts who are developing these reactors that
can use the majority of the waste product in energy production.</span></font></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Paul Rumelhart<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 04, 2010 12:21
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Vision 2020; Art Deco<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Say
What?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>What we need, in my opinion, is a Manhattan
Project-esque effort put into building state-of-the-art nuclear plants.
Nothing else right now is a viable drop-in replacement for our energy
needs. Solar, wind, geothermal, ethanol, hydroelectric, tides, etc are
all supplemental technologies that will never work in the short to medium
time frame to cover our energy needs alone. They still need to be
developed, but none of them are reliable forms of base energy
generation. Build breeder reactors that can use the majority of our
nuclear waste as fuel so we don't run into supply problems, and build enough
of them to handle a minimum level of our electrical needs.<br>
<br>
In concert with that, start minimizing the use of foreign oil even if it
means letting the "drill, baby, drill" folks loose. I'd
rather deal with the occasional oil leak then with crazy dictatorships.
Build up the current alternative energy technologies as a supplemental system
to cover problems with the nuclear plants or high usage scenarios.
Develop the "smart grid" and work on energy storage for off-peak
hours. Move over to electric cars in a big way after our base
electrical needs are taken care of, and then drop the transportation and energy-production
portions of oil use.<br>
<br>
Let's make ourselves self-sufficent for energy generation without resorting
to an agrarian life style. Reduce our dependency on Middle Eastern
religious states and South American dictatorships first, then reduce oil use
to making plastics and fertilizer and lubricants.<br>
<br>
The only way I could see the supplemental alternative energy technologies
producing the majority of our power would be converting every house and place
of business to be as energy neutral as possible with solar panels, wind,
etc. You'd need an extremely complex distributed smart grid energy
transportation system for that to work. Maybe someday, but we're
currently fighting two wars with the same type of religious fanatics we buy
our oil from. Not a good way to do business.<br>
<br>
Any thoughts?<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Tue, 5/4/10, Art Deco <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><deco@moscow.com></span></i></span></b>
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From: Art Deco <deco@moscow.com><br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?<br>
To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><br>
Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 10:41 AM</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>And this is exactly why we need a large scale
public/private effort to develop solar and other less environmentally adverse
energy sources. Those of us who are old remember the space race
effort. Why not one like that for alternative energy? Think of
the jobs such an effort could engender, especially now when the economy needs
a boost at the bottom -- creating wealth the old-fashioned way through labor,
skilled and unskilled, while creating huge public benefit worldwide.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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href="/mc/compose?to=garrettmc@verizon.net" target="_blank"
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href="/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank"
title="vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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What an idiot! But what else would we expect from Brown. Coming from his
mouth, with his background, whatever he says is meaningless, anyway.<br>
<br>
For anybody who has concerns for the environment and people, this disaster is
exactly what we don't want.<br>
<br>
This is precisely why offshore drilling should be banned and precisely why
the drill, baby, drill people are so shortsighted.<br>
<br>
It's too bad that some people just don't get it and that things like this
will keep happening.<br>
<br>
How many catastrophes like this do we need to wake us up?<br>
<br>
Garrett<br>
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<br>
<br>
"This is exactly what they want, because now President Obama can pander
to<br>
the environmentalists and say, 'I'm gonna shut it down because it's too<br>
dangerous.'"<br>
<br>
- Katrina-era FEMA head Michael Brown, on the oil slick approaching shore<br>
and possibly moving up the east coast<br>
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Video<br>
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href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/03/michael-brown-obama-wante_n_562004.html"
target="_blank" rel=nofollow>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/03/michael-brown-obama-wante_n_562004.html</a><br>
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