<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Here's my 2-bits on this. </div><div><br></div><div>I am half-Swede, English, Scots, Irish with pale white skin, blue eyes, and (used to be) dirty blond hair. My name is as English as it can get. I have ancestors who arrived on the Mayflower, I am eligible to be a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution, and my great-great grandfathers on both sides survived some of the worst battles of the Civil War--fighting on both sides. . </div><div><br></div><div>I lost track of the number of times the bloody University of Idaho held my pay check until I produced a green card to prove I had a right to work in the USofA. Even the people who knew my parents for decades and held me when I was a baby would not accept my Idaho state birth certificate or the certificate with my just-born footprint from Gritman Memorial Hospital as evidence I am a citizen (I know how the President must feel).</div><div><br></div><div>Given my experence and the fact that we, as Americans, are not required to carry citizenship papers at all times, I can evision a justice system clogged with false arrests. </div><div><br></div><div>Unless, of course, we are required to carry national ID cards that must be produced on demand. Welcome to Natzi Germany. </div><div><br>Kit Craine<div><br></div></div><div><br>On Apr 24, 2010, at 7:10 PM, keely emerinemix <<a href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">kjajmix1@msn.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div><br></div><div>Wayne writes:<br><br>"There is a process, for better or worse, that allows
folks that are not US citizens access to the US and to jobs in the US.
>From what I understand, the AZ law isn't going after those
folks at all. It is focused on the illegal immigrants."<br><br>It may be "focused on the illegal immigrants," Wayne, but it's "going after" every single Latino-surnamed, Mexican-looking, Spanish-speaking person in Arizona, who will now cease to enjoy the same protections under law that you and I have -- for no reason other than fear, fear that suggests that WE will somehow be safer if THEY have to produce proof of legal residency. <br><br></div><font style="" color="#8064a2"><font style="font-size: 12pt;" size="3"><font style="" face="Verdana">Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a><br></font></font></font><br><br><br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>From: <a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</a></a><br>To: <a href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com"><a href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">kjajmix1@msn.com</a></a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Racism Enshrined in Arizona Law<br>Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:30:50 -0700<br><br><div>Keely,</div><div><br></div><div>While I agree that this has opened a whole can of worms as far as profiling, DWM, etc, etc, What can or should be done about ILLEGAL immigrants?</div><div><br></div><div>There is a process, for better or worse that allows folks that are not US citizens access to the US and to jobs in the US. From what I understand, the AZ law isn't going after</div><div>those folks at all. It is focused on the illegal immigrants.</div><div><br></div><div>Solutions?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><div><div>On Apr 23, 2010, at 3:26 PM, keely emerinemix wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div class="ecxhmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Arizona Governor Signs a Controversial Immigration Bill<br>><span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Gov. Jan Brewer of Arizona signed a bill that would require<br>> the police to ask people about their immigration status if<br>> officers have any reason to suspect that they are in the<br>> country illegally. (NY Times, April 23, 2010)<br><br><br>This is shameful.<br><br>"Any reason to suspect" that someone is in the country illegally means simply that "anyone who looks Mexican" could have their race, language, ethnicity, customs become probable cause for questioning. The idea of "driving while Mexican" used to be a wry, sick joke. Now, it's a cornerstone for "law and order," and it reeks.<br><br>I hope our local "Libertarians" and freedom lovers join me in condemning this bill with all vehemence. Because if not, the silence from their keyboards, fieldhouses, and offices would be deafening, given the incessant braying recently about the State's denial of rights, pronounced threats to liberty, and an alarming erosion of Constitutional and family values.<br><br><font color="#8064a2"><font style="font-size: 12pt;" size="3"><font face="Verdana">Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com"><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a></a></font></font></font><br><br><font color="#8064a2"><font style="font-size: 12pt;" size="3"><font face="Verdana">Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com"><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a></a><br></font></font></font><br><br><br><hr>The New Busy is not the old busy. 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