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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>The defense of using a mental illness condition
for crimes committed raises a lot of questions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>Just a few, for example:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>Mental illness is not simply an black/white
condition. There are degrees of severity ranging from very, very mild
to a total loss of the ability to make rational judgments. At what point
and how on this continuum does should a diagnosis of mental illness mitigate
criminal actions and affect the way the criminal justice system deals with an
offender with alleged mental health issues that allegedly contributed to the
commission of a crime?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>Obviously, if person suffers from the total
inability to make rational decisions, then it does not seem reasonable to hold
them criminally responsible, except possibly in situations as noted below.
But what about those lesser afflicted than total loss of rational ability?
Where, why, and how does the criminal justice system decide what mitigation
is called for given the degree of mental illness allegedly involved in a
criminal activity?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>I'm not familiar with all the facts in the Dan
Noble case. But here's another consideration that seems relevant.
Most mental illness caused behaviors do not sprout full-blown overnight.
Various symptoms appear and grow over time. If the sufferer becomes aware
of some of these symptoms, what responsibility does the sufferer have to deal
with them in some reasonable way (like diagnosis and treatment) before they
result in real harm to themselves or to others? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>Is it responsible to ignore such symptoms until
they result in criminal behavior? Non-mental health example: Some
people, especially as they age, finding themselves dozing off in the middle of
an activity, even an activity which demands a certain amount of focus, like
driving. When should someone stop driving or find a way to alleviate these
occurrences once they know they are susceptible to these episodes of nodding
off?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>If a person finds themselves ingesting enormous
amounts of caffeine in order to stay functional, as is apparently true in
the case of Dan Noble, at what point does it become irresponsible not to
try to deal with this situation in some constructive way? Non-mental
health example: It is generally not hard for someone to realize when they
are drinking too much too often, or when they have drunk too much to be in
reasonable control of themselves. When is it their responsibility to deal
with this [1] when they are drunk and are deciding whether to drive, and/or [2]
when alcohol intake begins to negatively affect their life/they become dependent
on alcohol in order to function/they have irresistible cravings for
alcohol/etc?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>The fundamental question here is: how much
do we accountability in others should be demanded when conditions
<FONT color=#ff0000><STRONG>begin</STRONG></FONT><FONT color=#000000> to develop
which should be warning signs, which if ignored, may lead to serious
consequences? What responsibility do family, friends, employers/fellow
employees/etc have to attempt to intervene when such syndromes
appear?</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>At what point should have Dan Noble/his
family/friends/etc known that there was something seriously wrong and attempted
to do something about it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>Another issue is this: Mental health
diagnosis and treatment is not an exact science. Seasoned
professionals can disagree about the nature and extent of a diagnosis and/or a
treatment course for an individual person. A short, recent, but revealing
article on some aspects of this subject can be found <A
href="http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2010/03/01/100301crat_atlarge_menand">here</A>.
Hence, it is reasonable to ask in cases where mental health is used as a
defense: How probable/accurate is the diagnosis of the nature and extent
of the mental illness at issue?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>Wayne A. Fox<BR>1009 Karen Lane<BR>PO Box
9421<BR>Moscow, ID 83843</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana><A
href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</A><BR>208 882-7975</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm href="mailto:v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm">Saundra
Lund</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=deco@moscow.com
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">'Art Deco'</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'Vision 2020'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=thansen@moscow.com
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">'Tom Hansen'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:31
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Dan Noble
released on $250K bond; May 5 hearing set</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">No
offense, but I think perhaps folks should have an idea of what the h*ll
they’re talking about before they go spouting off.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">My
understanding is that Dan Noble, as a result of his commitment to Eastern, has
been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. From the reporting, this was
apparently a new diagnosis for him.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">For
those who aren’t aware, severe undiagnosed and/or untreated bipolar disorder
can result in actual psychosis as well as a plethora of lesser symptoms.
Absent a diagnosis – which was apparently the case at the time of Dan’s crimes
– well-meaning people desperately searching for an explanation could well
“think” something like excessive caffeine might be an explanation for behavior
that was completely out of character.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">That
understandable attempt to explain the unexplainable should be left in the past
when more current information is available.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">To
me, there are at least a couple of noteworthy comments to make about this
tragic situation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">One:
someone in Whitman County commits two hit-and-runs where the victims, thank
God, sustain non-life-threatening injuries. He’s committed, diagnosed
with bipolar disorder, and spends about 5 months incarcerated before being
anticipated to post $250,000 bail.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">In
Latah County, another man kills his pregnant wife, lies for months about it,
eventually goes to jail, and gets out – just in time for Christmas – with just
$200,000 bail. The piece of sh*t eventually quasi-confesses to his
dastardly deeds, and he <B>still</B> gets to remain foot-loose and fancy-free
until his sentencing nearly a year after snuffing the life out of his pregnant
wife.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Two:
a longstanding judge in Whitman County seems totally ignorant about bipolar
disorder. I’m hesitant to comment too much on this aspect because I’m
not overly familiar with the judge, but to demand assurances that someone with
bipolar disorder will never again suffer from mania?!?! Would that such
an assurance was even possible! With even the most compliant patients
and the absolute best medication management, such an assurance is impossible,
much as it is that cancer survivors will never, ever again suffer a
recurrence.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
can’t, however, help but wonder if the judge demands the same certainty from
the repeat DUI offenders – or from the child abusers and domestic violence
offenders -- that regularly appear before him. From looking at public
records, it appears not. If I lived in Whitman County, I’d be demanding
answers about why those with mental illness are held to a higher standard than
criminals – with genuine free choice -- without bone fide medical
conditions.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">And,
third: in addition to sending my best wishes to Dan’s victims, I also
send my best wishes -- along with my encouragement -- to Dan Noble and
his loved ones. Mental illness isn’t anything one would willingly “opt
in.” Treatment and control can be a long and frustrating process, but
successful management is most often possible with bipolar disorder.
There may be some bumps along the way, but please don’t give up, and please
know there are <B>many</B> in the community willing to support your efforts
and sending you best wishes.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Saundra
Lund<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Moscow,
ID<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The
only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">~
Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">*****
Original material contained herein is Copyright 2010 through life plus 70
years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside
the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the
author.*****<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Art Deco<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:35
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Vision 2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Dan Noble
released on $250K bond; May 5 hearing set<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Surprisingly,
Googling "caffeine-induced psychosis" results in finding some interesting
material, not all of it consistent, not all of it
credible.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">However, less us
not forget ala Aristotle: When a crime is committed after first putting
oneself into a state of ignorance (poor judgment), then two crimes have
been committed, the first being putting oneself into a state of ignorance
(poor judgment).</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I think this is
good advice for judges looking at a defense attorney's claims that being
drunk, then committing a crime, for example, is a mitigating
circumstance. It's not. It's a exacerbating circumstance.
The choice to get drunk was made knowing what possible consequences there are
of being in that state.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">It's hard to
believe that any educated person would not know in this day and age that
<STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: red">excessive</SPAN></STRONG>
doses of caffeine do affect one's judgment.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">This will be an
interesting case to follow.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=kmmos1@verizon.net href="mailto:kmmos1@verizon.net">Kenneth Marcy</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Saturday, April
10, 2010 4:58 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> [Vision2020] Dan
Noble released on $250K bond; May 5 hearing set<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Driver accused of hitting 2 at WSU to post bond <BR><BR>A
Moscow, Idaho man accused of injuring two Washington State <BR>University
students in a December hit-and-run is expected to be <BR>released from jail
on a $250,000 bond.<BR><BR>The Associated Press<BR>COLFAX, Wash. —<BR><BR>A
Moscow, Idaho man accused of injuring two Washington State <BR>University
students in a December hit-and-run is expected to be <BR>released from jail
on a $250,000 bond.<BR><BR>Daniel Noble has pleaded not guilty to two felony
counts of vehicular <BR>assault, two felony counts of hit and run and
misdemeanor resisting <BR>arrest.<BR><BR>The Lewiston Tribune reports
Superior Court Judge David Frazier agreed <BR>Friday to release Noble on
bond and set a May 5 hearing to consider a <BR>motion from the defense that
seeks acquittal of the charges.<BR><BR>Doctors at Eastern Washington State
Hospital last month declared the <BR>31-year-old fit to stand
trial.<BR><BR>Noble's attorney, Mark Moorer, has previously told the court
his <BR>client was suffering from caffeine-induced psychosis brought on by
<BR>too much coffee and energy drinks.<BR><BR>===<BR><BR><A
href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011571304_apidwsupedestrianshit.html">http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011571304_apidwsupedestrianshit.html</A>
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