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This is evidence of the kind of thoughtful, compassionate, and insightful contributions to Vision 2020 that I wish we saw more of . . . and that I contributed more of. <br><br>Thanks, Saundra. You make some excellent points.<br><br><font style="" color="#8064a2"><font style="font-size: 12pt;" size="3"><font style="" face="Verdana">Keely<br>www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<br></font></font></font><br><br><br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">From: v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm<br>To: deco@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:31:12 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Dan Noble released on $250K bond; May 5 hearing set<br><br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">No offense, but I think perhaps folks should have an idea of
what the h*ll they’re talking about before they go spouting off.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">My understanding is that Dan Noble, as a result of his commitment
to Eastern, has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. From the reporting, this
was apparently a new diagnosis for him.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">For those who aren’t aware, severe undiagnosed and/or untreated
bipolar disorder can result in actual psychosis as well as a plethora of lesser
symptoms. Absent a diagnosis – which was apparently the case at the time of
Dan’s crimes – well-meaning people desperately searching for an explanation
could well “think” something like excessive caffeine might be an explanation
for behavior that was completely out of character.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">That understandable attempt to explain the unexplainable should
be left in the past when more current information is available.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">To me, there are at least a couple of noteworthy comments to
make about this tragic situation.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">One: someone in Whitman County commits two hit-and-runs where the
victims, thank God, sustain non-life-threatening injuries. He’s committed,
diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and spends about 5 months incarcerated before
being anticipated to post $250,000 bail.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">In Latah County, another man kills his pregnant wife, lies for
months about it, eventually goes to jail, and gets out – just in time for
Christmas – with just $200,000 bail. The piece of sh*t eventually quasi-confesses
to his dastardly deeds, and he <b>still</b> gets to remain foot-loose and fancy-free
until his sentencing nearly a year after snuffing the life out of his pregnant
wife.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Two: a longstanding judge in Whitman County seems totally
ignorant about bipolar disorder. I’m hesitant to comment too much on this
aspect because I’m not overly familiar with the judge, but to demand assurances
that someone with bipolar disorder will never again suffer from mania?!?! Would
that such an assurance was even possible! With even the most compliant patients
and the absolute best medication management, such an assurance is impossible, much
as it is that cancer survivors will never, ever again suffer a recurrence.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I can’t, however, help but wonder if the judge demands the same certainty
from the repeat DUI offenders – or from the child abusers and domestic violence
offenders -- that regularly appear before him. From looking at public records,
it appears not. If I lived in Whitman County, I’d be demanding answers about
why those with mental illness are held to a higher standard than criminals –
with genuine free choice -- without bone fide medical conditions.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">And, third: in addition to sending my best wishes to Dan’s
victims, I also send my best wishes -- along with my encouragement -- to Dan Noble
and his loved ones. Mental illness isn’t anything one would willingly “opt in.”
Treatment and control can be a long and frustrating process, but successful
management is most often possible with bipolar disorder. There may be some
bumps along the way, but please don’t give up, and please know there are <b>many</b>
in the community willing to support your efforts and sending you best wishes.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Sincerely,</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Saundra Lund</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Moscow, ID</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good
people to do nothing.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">~ Edmund Burke</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2010
through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt,
or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written
permission of the author.*****</span></b></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Art Deco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Vision 2020<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Dan Noble released on $250K bond; May 5
hearing set</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Surprisingly,
Googling "caffeine-induced psychosis" results in finding some
interesting material, not all of it consistent, not all of it credible.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">However,
less us not forget ala Aristotle: When a crime is committed after first
putting oneself into a state of ignorance (poor judgment), then two
crimes have been committed, the first being putting oneself into a
state of ignorance (poor judgment).</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">I
think this is good advice for judges looking at a defense attorney's claims
that being drunk, then committing a crime, for example, is a mitigating
circumstance. It's not. It's a exacerbating circumstance. The
choice to get drunk was made knowing what possible consequences there are of
being in that state.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">It's
hard to believe that any educated person would not know in this day and age
that <strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: red;">excessive</span></strong>
doses of caffeine do affect one's judgment.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">This
will be an interesting case to follow.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228);"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> <a href="mailto:kmmos1@verizon.net" title="kmmos1@verizon.net">Kenneth Marcy</a> </span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" title="vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> Saturday, April 10,
2010 4:58 AM</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> [Vision2020] Dan
Noble released on $250K bond; May 5 hearing set</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal">Driver accused of hitting 2 at WSU to post bond <br>
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A Moscow, Idaho man accused of injuring two Washington State <br>
University students in a December hit-and-run is expected to be <br>
released from jail on a $250,000 bond.<br>
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The Associated Press<br>
COLFAX, Wash. —<br>
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A Moscow, Idaho man accused of injuring two Washington State <br>
University students in a December hit-and-run is expected to be <br>
released from jail on a $250,000 bond.<br>
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Daniel Noble has pleaded not guilty to two felony counts of vehicular <br>
assault, two felony counts of hit and run and misdemeanor resisting <br>
arrest.<br>
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The Lewiston Tribune reports Superior Court Judge David Frazier agreed <br>
Friday to release Noble on bond and set a May 5 hearing to consider a <br>
motion from the defense that seeks acquittal of the charges.<br>
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Doctors at Eastern Washington State Hospital last month declared the <br>
31-year-old fit to stand trial.<br>
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Noble's attorney, Mark Moorer, has previously told the court his <br>
client was suffering from caffeine-induced psychosis brought on by <br>
too much coffee and energy drinks.<br>
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<a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011571304_apidwsupedestrianshit.html">http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011571304_apidwsupedestrianshit.html</a>
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