<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">There is also the problem of a "pole tax " and the US Constitution:<div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">"The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution" title="Twenty-fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; ">24th Amendment</a>, ratified in 1964, outlawed the use of the poll tax (or any other tax) as a pre-condition in voting in Federal elections. The 1966 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Supreme_Court" title="United States Supreme Court" class="mw-redirect" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; ">Supreme Court</a> case <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harper_v._Virginia_Board_of_Elections" title="Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; ">Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections</a></i> extended this explicit enactment as a matter of judicial interpretation of a more general provision, ruling that the imposition of a poll tax in state elections violated the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause" title="Equal Protection Clause" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; ">Equal Protection Clause</a> of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution" title="Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; ">14th Amendment</a> to the United States Constitution. The <i>Harper</i> ruling was one of several that rely on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause" title="Equal Protection Clause" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; ">Equal Protection Clause</a> of the 14th Amendment rather than the more direct provision of the 15th Amendment. In a two-month period in the spring of 1966, the last four states to still charge a poll tax laws had those laws declared unconstitutional by Federal courts, starting with Texas on 9 February. Decisions followed for Alabama (3 March) and Virginia (25 March). Mississippi's $2.00 poll tax was the last to fall, declared unconstitutional on 8 April 1966, by a Federal panel in Jackson, Miss."</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">Now, it's not a far stretch going from a pole tax to a mandatory photo ID that you "buy" from the state in order to vote, so I'm sure that this would lead to a constitutional lawsuit.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">I have no problems with a photo ID IF it's provided at no cost to the voter.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="sans-serif" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">The first election I was able to vote in was back home in Pennsylvania, and there, when you registered to vote, you got a voter registration card.</span></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 20, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Gary Crabtree wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Nothing be wrong. Registration procedures would need to be modified to include verification of citizenship however. Same day registration would have to go.<br><br>Personally, I'd be just fine with a poll tax. Heck, I'd be fine with raising the voting age to 35, limiting it to property owners, and instituting a mandatory quiz of all voters to make sure they have a fundamental grasp of the issues beyond the basic "Yippee!, let's take money from those who earn it and redistribute it to those who don't paradigm." Unfortunately, my point of view is not yet widely held.<br><br>g<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br>From: "Wayne Price" <<a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</a>><br>Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:15 AM<br>To: "the lockshop" <<a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">lockshop@pull.twcbc.com</a>><br>Cc: <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Legislative Newsletter X--March 12-19, 2010<br><br><blockquote type="cite">For what it's worth, What be wrong with a photo voter registration<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">card provided FREE upon registration?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Having to pay for a photo ID from the state, although minimal in cost,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">starts to look like a "pole tax".<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Mar 20, 2010, at 9:52 AM, the lockshop wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I am of two minds on this one. I dispise the idea of present on demand<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">identity documents but I approve of the idea of making sure that<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">those who<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">attempt to vote actually are entitled to the priviledge. Idaho makes<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">available a photo ID card for a very minimal fee $20.00 for 8 years)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">No one<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">is forced to obtain such a document, you simply pass on the option of<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">exersizing your franchise if you decide to decline. The same as you<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">do if<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">you fail to register. I'm not sure that this is an overly onerous<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">burdon to<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">place on Idaho citizens.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">g<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">----- Original Message -----<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">From: "Paul Rumelhart" <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">To: <<a href="mailto:ttrail@moscow.com">ttrail@moscow.com</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Cc: <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 9:24 AM<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Legislative Newsletter X--March 12-19, 2010<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thank you for the update, I have some comments about one of the bills<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">that was voted on:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Rep. Tom Trail wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">2. Voter ID Bill -- HB496 passed the house on a 64-6 vote.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The bill<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">would require voters to show photo ID at the polls before they vote.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">One of my concerns is that the Secretary of State reports that<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">there do<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">not appear to be any major problems with voter fraud in Idaho. In<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">one<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">sense this is a solution in search of a problem.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Doesn't this disenfranchise voters that simply don't drive? Having a<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">form of photo ID is not a requirement of a citizen of this country,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">as<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">far as I can tell. So why make it a requirement for voting?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Especially<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">if it is a solution in search of a problem.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">What do you do if you don't have a driver's license, aren't a<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">member of<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the military, or don't work for an organization that gives out photo<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">IDs? 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