<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>G,</div><div><br></div><div>Stop with the lies. </div><div><br></div><div>His religion has little to do with why I dislike I dislike him. After all, he has the same religion as me: Christian. </div><div><br></div><div>It has more to do with his arrogance, his nasty disposition, his constant insults and misrepresentations of liberals and progressives, his pretending to be Donovan or Schwaller, and his relationship with a group that has ignored the city code and local laws, tried to get their politcal opponents fired, smeared feces inside and outside of the cars of friends of mine, etc. </div><div><br></div><div>That's why their opponents come from a variety of religious backgrounds. That's why our anger is not directed at others who share the politics and religious beliefs of his group. Try to explain that. Why that group if it is based on prejudice? </div><div><br></div><div>I'm pretty sure that Hitler would have been nice to you too and that fact would mean absolutely nothing to me either. I'll be nice to you too -- once you stop trying to wreck my reputation with your lies! Really that's it. I don't give a damn about your beliefs or his. </div><div><br></div><div>Not likely to happen soon, I imagine!</div><div><br></div><div>Best, Joe </div><div><br>On Mar 15, 2010, at 8:19 PM, "the lockshop" <<a href="mailto:lockshop@pull.twcbc.com">lockshop@pull.twcbc.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div><font face="Arial">1. The first time I met Dale, he did the "I can't be him,
no comb over" schtick. I laughed, he laughed and we went on from there to
have a fairly agreeable conversation.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">2. If someone, who was a charter member of a group
that was blatantly hostile to me and mine (as the "intolerista" clan
proudly proclaims) approached me in public while I was with
clients/friends/family etc. I can tell you right now I would be less than
enthusiastic to break away and engage the interloper in what would likely be a
less than pleasant dialog. If that person started carrying on about her hatred
for me and sobbed for some sort of absolution I would be desparately swiveling
my head around in a paniced search for the guys in white coats with butterfly
nets.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">3. People speculate about public figures all the time and
in many different forums. I seem to recall quite a bit of speculation on this
particular list with regard to various city council members, congressmen,
presidential candidates, and religious leaders without the same outpouring
of faux concern.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">To sum this up, I've known Dale for a few years now and
find him to be a pleasent fellow who, if you don't start off by jabbing him with
a pointy, poo encrusted stick, will carry on a lively conversation as
his time permits. Trying to cast him as some sort of an evil ogre because you
dislike his religion, his pastor, and his politics is cheap theatrics and
nothing more.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">g</font></div></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="thansen@moscow.com" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a> </div>
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Before I start, let me express my relief that Shirley Ringo is not undergoing
any kind of health crisis at all, period, and that she'll be running for
re-election. I'm very fond of Shirley and I think she's done a great job
for Latah County.<br><br>Second, I'd also like to express my disgust at
Courtney's tactics in tossing about a rumor like this -- parsing words and
managing to continue the snarkiness by generously reminding all of us that
only her filing will put to rest the speculation. Shirley has a filing
deadline that I'm confident she'll meet; the "speculation" is likely generated
and definitely furthered by Courtney, period. She owes him nothing other
than the basic decency he is unwilling to show her. I have tried to show
the same decency and courtesy to Dale, as one of the examples will demonstrate
painfully. But he won't take my calls, and he's blocked me from his
email and his blog. Now, I know that Dale may have Idaho's Most Popular
Political Blog, and that does not make him a journalist, someone who, as a
professional, would have simply checked with Shirley before printing, in his
Most Popular Blog, a rumor that is as callous in regard to her health as it is
mean-spirited at the prospect of her political career.<br><br>So with that in
mind, I'll share three examples of bad behavior on his part, directed at me
and indicative, I think, of a spirit of gross unkindness, disingenuousness,
and a lack of character I've rarely seen on the part of any adult of my
acquaintance:<br><br>1. Shortly after Sister's Brew opened up three
years ago this spring, I ran into Dale with a group of his students. I
greeted him by name, only to have him say, in front of kids who knew that he
was Mr. Courtney, "I'm not Dale. I don't have a comb-over, see?"
This was in reference to Tom Hansen's having called him "Comb-Over." For
the record, one of Dale's faults is not that he combs his hair over a bald
spot. In fact, he has a full head of hair. It covers a curious
mental process that would allow him to continue to deny -- in answer to a
simple "Hi, Dale!" -- that he was who we all knew him to be.<br><br>2.
Over the past few years, Dale has occasionally -- once, I think, would be too
much -- referred to my being angry with him about something as "Keely got her
panties in a wad." Finally, my husband emailed him to tell him to stop,
because it's disrespectful and entirely inappropriate for a man to say about a
woman. The back-and-forth that followed consisted of Jeff's telling Dale
to knock it off, and Dale's condescending insistence that grammarians and
rhetoricists would all agree that in an idiom like "Keely got her panties in a
wad," the subject of the idiomatic referent was never actually, truly, a
direct, personal reference to that person herself and so there was no reason
to get upset . . or is it that the rhetorical allusion is symbolic and thus
never literal, which makes it stupid of me to be offended? True, he
finally agreed to stop, only because Jeff, as my husband, had asked him to and
only after arguing that it was Jeff's problem for not understanding the fine
points of rhetoric. I think "head-spinning weaselry" covers
it.<br><br>3. This last one made me cry. It happened about two
years ago at a concert at the NuArt; the artist was Christian balladeer Don
Francisco. I had been feeling bad about how close to hatred my feelings
for Dale were becoming, and after repenting to the Lord, I sought forgiveness
from Dale -- face to face, preferably, which is how I do these things, or by
phone or email -- not possible, because he won't pick up my calls and has
blocked me from his blog (he acknowledged that Jeff, in the example above, had
managed to catch his email on a down day). Anyway, I saw Dale at the
show, during intermission, and I went up to him and said that I was beginning
to feel as though I hated him, that it was wrong -- a sin, not because it
offended my standards, but because it offended God's -- and that I would like
him, please, to forgive me. Dale's response? He started the "I'm
not Dale, I don't have a comb-over" thing, retreated, and then unleashed the
"all of you Intoleristas are obnoxious" thing. I kinda begged him to
just hear my apologies, and I remember this well: One, I was in tears,
first at my own shame, and then at his obstinance; two, I was determined to
not, myself, go the "OK, I'm sorry, but YOU did . . . " route.
This one was about how I had sinned by starting to hate him. But I left
knowing that the aftermath was all, very sadly, about him. I find that
tragic. And, for all it's worth, I don't hate Dale at all and haven't
since. I pity him, and I hope to heap coals on his head, as the Bible
says, to foster his repentance. <br><br>There have been things that Dale
has attributed to me that I've never said, and he's certainly been less than
charitable in his dealings with me since. I think his judgment is sorely
lacking, his maturity riddled with contempt for others, and his character not
in keeping with the Bible's standards for eldership. There's nothing
I've said here that I wouldn't gladly say to him; I think it's clear that I've
tried. His treatment of Shirley Ringo is awful.
<br><br>Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a><br><br><font color="#8064a2"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size="3"><font face="Verdana">Keely<br>www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<br></font></font></font><br><br><br><br>>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:09:40 -0700<br>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Blahg
Update<br>> From: thansen@moscow.com<br>> To: kjajmix1@msn.com<br>>
CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> <br>> Keely kindly communicates:<br>>
<br>> "Let me know if you need any facts to back up any rumors that Dale
is<br>> weasel-like in his dealings."<br>> <br>> You're on.<br>>
<br>> Seeya at the Intolerista get-together April 10th, Keely.<br>>
<br>> Tom Hansen<br>> Moscow, Idaho<br>> <br>> ><br>> >
And, you know, that's the calling of a true, Christian elder:
reporting<br>> > on gossip, rumor, and lies, particularly when they can
do damage to a<br>> > political enemy's re-election.<br>>
><br>> > Let me know if you need any facts to back up any rumors that
Dale is<br>> > weasel-like in his dealings.<br>> ><br>> >
Keely<br>> > www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<br>> ><br>>
><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010
08:42:10 -0700<br>> >> From: thansen@moscow.com<br>> >> To:
vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >> Subject: [Vision2020] Blahg
Update<br>> >><br>> >> Courtesy of Dale Courtney's blahg
at:<br>> >><br>> >>
http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2010/03/15/72722.aspx<br>>
>><br>> >>
----------------------------------------------------<br>> >><br>>
>> The following is from Idaho District 6 liberal Democrat, Rep.
Shirley<br>> >> Ringo:<br>> >><br>> >> - - - -
-<br>> >><br>> >> Visionaries:<br>> >><br>>
>> I note that Dale Courtney posted information in his blog
indicating<br>> >> that I would not be running for re-election to the
legislature due to<br>> >> health reasons.<br>> >><br>>
>> Starting last October, I had a series of surgical procedures
to<br>> >> improve circulation in my legs. The procedures were
successful. I<br>> >> have no lingering health problems that would
keep me from<br>> >> participating fully in the legislative
process.<br>> >><br>> >> I will file for re-election - the
deadline is Friday, March 19.<br>> >> Bill<br>> >> Spence,
reporter for the Lewiston Tribune, mentioned my plans to run<br>> >>
in a recent news article.<br>> >><br>> >> I do not have, and
have not confided any secret, strategic plans to<br>> >> anyone - not
even to Dale Courtney.<br>> >><br>> >> Shirley Ringo<br>>
>><br>> >> - - - - -<br>> >><br>> >> For the
record, I never said that Shirley Ringo told me she wasn’t<br>> >>
running. I said that it was a rumor.<br>> >><br>> >> I’ve
heard rumors to the effect that Shirley Ringo is not going to<br>> >>
run<br>> >> again because of health reasons. But that Judy Brown will
file at the<br>> >> last minute to take her seat. That will keep the
Republicans from<br>> >> putting anyone up to challenge
Brown.<br>> >><br>> >> The rumor will be nixed when she
actually files.<br>> >><br>> >>
----------------------------------------------------<br>> >><br>>
>> We here at the Vizz are looking forward to your retraction,
dale.<br>> >> Although, judging by your "track record", it isn't
anticipated, since<br>> >> rumor has it that you are an immature
weasel whose word is no better<br>> >> than<br>> >> the
unsubstantiated garbage that you report in your blahg. But, then<br>>
>> again, that is only rumor.<br>> >><br>> >> Seeya
round town, Moscow.<br>> >><br>> >> Tom Hansen<br>>
>> Moscow, Idaho<br>> >><br>> >> "The Pessimist
complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to<br>> >>
change<br>> >> and the Realist adjusts his sails."<br>>
>><br>> >> - Unknown<br>> >><br>> >><br>>
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