<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>Great points! Now how big of a check are you guys going to write to improve Idaho's prison system? </DIV>
<DIV>How about if we send lawyers in with their clients, split the sentence 10/90. That way lawyers will work harder to improve the conditions of prisons and to get their client minimum time. : P </DIV>
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<DIV>Your Friend,</DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan <BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 3/13/10, Wayne Price <I><bear@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Wayne Price <bear@moscow.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Idaho Shame: Private Contractors, ICC, and CCA<BR>To: "Saundra Lund" <v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm><BR>Cc: Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 7:56 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Saundra,<BR><BR>One of the critical issues we, as a society have to get our heads <BR>around is that the "punishment" is being sent to prison, not to go to <BR>a prison FOR punishment.<BR>But, why should we? We, collectively as a society don't care about <BR>prisoners, if we did, the conditions in OUR prisons would not be what <BR>they are today.<BR><BR>And as Orwell said, all pigs are created equal, some are more equal <BR>than others. A prisoner is a prisoner is a prisoner. BUT, we send some <BR>to country club prisons,<BR>others we conduct extraordinary rendition with and send to countries <BR>at our own behest to be tortured, that is if we haven't tortured them <BR>ourselves. So, can it really be<BR>a shock that prison abuse occurs in Idaho too?<BR><BR>And then we get to who is responsible and who should be brought before <BR>the courts to explain and defend their
actions that allowed this to <BR>happen. The governor is<BR>the head of the executive branch of government, which happens to be <BR>responsible for the prisons and condition of prisons that Idaho <BR>prisoners are sent to.<BR>Do you really think that Butch is willing to stand up and defend his <BR>actions and the actions of those under him for the treatment of <BR>prisoners? Hell, we had a president that<BR>lied about torture, authorized torture and what are the <BR>consequences? NOTHING. And now we don't even trust our our justice <BR>system to finally give these people proper<BR>federal trials. With those put in power, it seems to always be someone <BR>else's fault. And in a way, it is, it's our fault.<BR><BR>It all boils down to one thing, responsibility, OURS, and that can <BR>only be corrected at the ballot box, and not just at the national and <BR>state level, but
also the local level.<BR>IF you don't like the state of our local justice system, remember that <BR>on voting day! IF you don't like the direction and management of the <BR>University of Idaho, remember that<BR>when the members of the Board of Regents come up for LOCAL elections. <BR>If you don't like what's happening in Boise, remember that on election <BR>day.<BR><BR><BR>Vote accordingly.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On Mar 13, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Saundra <SPAN>Lund</SPAN> wrote:<BR><BR>> Visionaries:<BR>><BR>> Based on previous comments, I'm well-aware that some here don't give <BR>> a rip<BR>> about society's obligation to those we incarcerate. So, those folks <BR>> may as<BR>> well delete this post right now.<BR>><BR>> For the rest of us, many/most are probably aware of widespread <BR>> abuses by<BR>> PCS's (private security contractors) hired by the government (i.e.,<BR>>
Blackwater-cum-Xe; CACI, Titan, etc.).<BR>><BR>> However, how many of were aware of gross abuses happening right here <BR>> in<BR>> Idaho?<BR>><BR>> Thursday, the ACLU "filed a class action federal lawsuit charging that<BR>> officials at the Idaho Correctional Center (ICC) promote and <BR>> facilitate a<BR>> culture of rampant violence that has led to carnage and suffering <BR>> among<BR>> prisoners at the state-owned facility operated by the for-profit <BR>> company<BR>> Corrections Corporation of America (CCA)."<BR>><BR>> For those interested in learning what we-the-people of the State of <BR>> Idaho<BR>> are calling "justice" right here at home, you can read more here:<BR>> <A href="http://www.aclu.org/prisoners-rights/aclu-lawsuit-charges-idaho-prison-offic" target=_blank>http://www.aclu.org/prisoners-rights/aclu-lawsuit-charges-idaho-prison-offic</A><BR>>
ials-promote-rampant-violence<BR>> OR<BR>> <A href="http://tinyurl.com/ACLU-ICC-CCA" target=_blank>http://tinyurl.com/ACLU-ICC-CCA</A><BR>><BR>> And, if you have the stomach for it and want to understand . . . <BR>> *really*<BR>> understand the role of for-profit CCA in this shame, please read the<BR>> complaint itself:<BR>> <A href="http://www.aclu.org/files/assets/2010-3-11-Riggs-SecondAmendedComplaint.pdf" target=_blank>http://www.aclu.org/files/assets/2010-3-11-Riggs-SecondAmendedComplaint.pdf</A><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Saundra Lund<BR>> Moscow, ID<BR>><BR>> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people <BR>> to do<BR>> nothing.<BR>> ~ Edmund Burke<BR>><BR>> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2010 through <BR>> life plus<BR>> 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce <BR>> outside<BR>>
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