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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Gosh, Donovan, I can only assume you didn’t bother to read
the facts. It doesn’t seem to me a lack of money is a significant issue
with ICC & CCA but rather unacceptably poor management (which is a WASTE of
money, our tax dollars), a complete lack of accountability, hiring people not
fit to work with human beings, and dare I say, a complete disregard for
humanity and the responsibility of having any kind of control over any living
being, to name just a few.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It’s too bad you choose to avoid offering any productive
comment on a very serious matter and instead choose to revert to your predictable
obsession with unprovoked attacks on lawyers as some kind of solution . . . <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Saundra<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Donovan Arnold
[mailto:donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 13, 2010 7:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Saundra Lund; Wayne Price<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Idaho Shame: Private Contractors, ICC, and CCA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Great points! Now how big of a check are you
guys going to write to improve Idaho's prison system? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>How about if we send lawyers in with their clients, split
the sentence 10/90. That way lawyers will work harder to improve the
conditions of prisons and to get their client minimum time. : P <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Your Friend,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Donovan <br>
<br>
--- On <b>Sat, 3/13/10, Wayne Price <i><bear@moscow.com></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Wayne Price <bear@moscow.com><br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Idaho Shame: Private Contractors, ICC, and CCA<br>
To: "Saundra Lund" <v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm><br>
Cc: Vision2020@moscow.com<br>
Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 7:56 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Saundra,<br>
<br>
One of the critical issues we, as a society have to get our heads <br>
around is that the "punishment" is being sent to prison, not to go
to <br>
a prison FOR punishment.<br>
But, why should we? We, collectively as a society don't care
about <br>
prisoners, if we did, the conditions in OUR prisons would not be what <br>
they are today.<br>
<br>
And as Orwell said, all pigs are created equal, some are more equal <br>
than others. A prisoner is a prisoner is a prisoner. BUT, we send some <br>
to country club prisons,<br>
others we conduct extraordinary rendition with and send to countries <br>
at our own behest to be tortured, that is if we haven't tortured them <br>
ourselves. So, can it really be<br>
a shock that prison abuse occurs in Idaho too?<br>
<br>
And then we get to who is responsible and who should be brought before <br>
the courts to explain and defend their actions that allowed this to <br>
happen. The governor is<br>
the head of the executive branch of government, which happens to be <br>
responsible for the prisons and condition of prisons that Idaho <br>
prisoners are sent to.<br>
Do you really think that Butch is willing to stand up and defend his <br>
actions and the actions of those under him for the treatment of <br>
prisoners? Hell, we had a president that<br>
lied about torture, authorized torture and what are the <br>
consequences? NOTHING. And now we don't even trust our our
justice <br>
system to finally give these people proper<br>
federal trials. With those put in power, it seems to always be someone <br>
else's fault. And in a way, it is, it's our fault.<br>
<br>
It all boils down to one thing, responsibility, OURS, and that can <br>
only be corrected at the ballot box, and not just at the national and <br>
state level, but also the local level.<br>
IF you don't like the state of our local justice system, remember that <br>
on voting day! IF you don't like the direction and management of the <br>
University of Idaho, remember that<br>
when the members of the Board of Regents come up for LOCAL elections. <br>
If you don't like what's happening in Boise, remember that on election <br>
day.<br>
<br>
<br>
Vote accordingly.<br>
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On Mar 13, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Saundra Lund wrote:<br>
<br>
> Visionaries:<br>
><br>
> Based on previous comments, I'm well-aware that some here don't
give <br>
> a rip<br>
> about society's obligation to those we incarcerate. So, those
folks <br>
> may as<br>
> well delete this post right now.<br>
><br>
> For the rest of us, many/most are probably aware of widespread <br>
> abuses by<br>
> PCS's (private security contractors) hired by the government (i.e.,<br>
> Blackwater-cum-Xe; CACI, Titan, etc.).<br>
><br>
> However, how many of were aware of gross abuses happening right
here <br>
> in<br>
> Idaho?<br>
><br>
> Thursday, the ACLU "filed a class action federal lawsuit charging
that<br>
> officials at the Idaho Correctional Center (ICC) promote and <br>
> facilitate a<br>
> culture of rampant violence that has led to carnage and suffering <br>
> among<br>
> prisoners at the state-owned facility operated by the for-profit <br>
> company<br>
> Corrections Corporation of America (CCA)."<br>
><br>
> For those interested in learning what we-the-people of the State
of <br>
> Idaho<br>
> are calling "justice" right here at home, you can read more
here:<br>
> <a
href="http://www.aclu.org/prisoners-rights/aclu-lawsuit-charges-idaho-prison-offic"
target="_blank">http://www.aclu.org/prisoners-rights/aclu-lawsuit-charges-idaho-prison-offic</a><br>
> ials-promote-rampant-violence<br>
> OR<br>
> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ACLU-ICC-CCA" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/ACLU-ICC-CCA</a><br>
><br>
> And, if you have the stomach for it and want to understand . . . <br>
> *really*<br>
> understand the role of for-profit CCA in this shame, please read the<br>
> complaint itself:<br>
> <a
href="http://www.aclu.org/files/assets/2010-3-11-Riggs-SecondAmendedComplaint.pdf"
target="_blank">http://www.aclu.org/files/assets/2010-3-11-Riggs-SecondAmendedComplaint.pdf</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Saundra Lund<br>
> Moscow, ID<br>
><br>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good
people <br>
> to do<br>
> nothing.<br>
> ~ Edmund Burke<br>
><br>
> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2010 through
<br>
> life plus<br>
> 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or
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