<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>"Arnie believes that the Democrats were pro-segregation and the Republicans<BR>were anti-Vietnam back in the 60s and 70s." --Sgt. Hamster</DIV>
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<DIV>I suppose the following Democrats and laws were figments of my imagination or perhaps The Hamster believes the KKK was not a racist movement.</DIV>
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<DIV><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=4 face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Jim Crow Laws</FONT></U></DIV>
<DIV><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=4 face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Senator Robert Byrd</FONT></U></DIV>
<DIV><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=4 face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Hugo Black</FONT></U></DIV>
<DIV><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=4 face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Senator Strom Thurmond </FONT></U></DIV>
<DIV><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=4 face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Gov. George Corley Wallace, Jr. <BR>Senator Ernest Hollings</FONT></U></DIV>
<DIV><A title="Richard Russell, Jr." href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/wiki/Richard_Russell,_Jr."><FONT color=#0000ff size=4 face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Richard Russell, Jr.</FONT></A><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=4 face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> </FONT></U></DIV>
<DIV><A title="James Eastland" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/wiki/James_Eastland"><FONT color=#0000ff size=4 face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">James Eastland</FONT></A><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=4 face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> </FONT></U></DIV>
<DIV><A class=mw-redirect title="John Stennis" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/wiki/John_Stennis"><FONT color=#0000ff size=4 face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">John Stenni</FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><A title="Jesse Helms" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/wiki/Jesse_Helms"><FONT color=#0000ff size=4 face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Jesse Helms</FONT></A><FONT color=#0000ff face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Recently, Democrats have been better at not being bigoted toward Blacks, Gays, Women, and minorities. But that is only a general rule, not applicable in every case.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Nixon and Ford ended the Vietnam War, both Republicans. JFK and Johnson escalated it. So indeed, the parties have switched positions since the 1960s. In fact, many people switched political parties after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Your Friend,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>Donovan Arnold</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>--- On <B>Thu, 3/11/10, Tom Hansen <I><thansen@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] <SPAN>Teabaggers</SPAN><BR>To: "Wayne Price" <bear@moscow.com>, "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 10:06 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Wayne -<BR><BR>To put Arnie into appropriate perspective, here is one of his similarly<BR>profound quotes:<BR><BR>"Both parties are completely different than they were in the 1960s and<BR>1970s when Democrats were pro-segregation and Republicans were anti-war."<BR><BR>- Donovan Arnold (March 5, 2010)<BR><BR><A href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2010-March/068911.html" target=_blank>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2010-March/068911.html</A><BR><BR>That's right, Wayne.<BR><BR>Arnie believes that the Democrats were pro-segregation and the Republicans<BR>were anti-Vietnam back in the 60s and 70s.<BR><BR>It's as if President Johnson's Civil Rights Act of 1964 and President<BR>Nixon's 1968 campaign promise that we would be out of Vietnam by the end<BR>of 1969 (followed five years later with his "Withdrawal With Honor"<BR>concept of 1974) never happened.<BR><BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow,
Idaho<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>> Clearly Dr Donovan, you are correct and the Mount Vernon Society ( The<BR>> folks that OWN Mt. Vernon) are wrong. How could I have been so silly<BR>> to trust what they said and not you?<BR>><BR>> <A href="http://www.mountvernon.org/learn/meet_george/index.cfm/ss/101/" target=_blank>http://www.mountvernon.org/learn/meet_george/index.cfm/ss/101/</A><BR>><BR>><BR>> "George Washington was born into a world in which slavery was<BR>> accepted. He became a slave owner when his father died in 1743. At the<BR>> age of eleven, he inherited ten slaves and 500 acres of land. When he<BR>> began farming Mount Vernon eleven years later, at the age of 22, he<BR>> had a work force of about 36 slaves. With his marriage to Martha<BR>> <SPAN>Custis</SPAN> in 1759, 20 of her slaves came to Mount Vernon. After their<BR>> marriage, Washington purchased even more slaves. The slave population<BR>>
also increased because the slaves were marrying and raising their own<BR>> families. By 1799, when George Washington died, there were 316 slaves<BR>> living on the estate."<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:<BR>><BR>>> Rev. Keely, nobody is defending slavery. Let me say it twice so even<BR>>> you understand, NOBODY is defending slavery. I was just explaining<BR>>> inaccuracies in his (Mr. Price's) posts about Thomas Jefferson<BR>>> sleeping with his slaves and George Washington being a large slave<BR>>> owner. They are factually incorrect statements.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> I forgot, accuracy of the facts was not a concern for you, just<BR>>> unfounded misguided displays of fake catty emotional outrage, Keely<BR>>> when slandering people on both the local and
national level, living<BR>>> and dead.<BR>>><BR>>> Your Friend,<BR>>><BR>>> Donovan Arnold<BR>>><BR>>> --- On Thu, 3/11/10, keely emerinemix <<A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kjajmix1@msn.com" ymailto="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">kjajmix1@msn.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> From: keely emerinemix <<A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kjajmix1@msn.com" ymailto="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">kjajmix1@msn.com</A>><BR>>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Teabaggers<BR>>> To: <A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com</A>, <A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=garrettmc@verizon.net" ymailto="mailto:garrettmc@verizon.net">garrettmc@verizon.net</A>, "Chris<BR>>> Price" <<A
href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bear@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</A>><BR>>> Cc: <A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>>> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 3:37 PM<BR>>><BR>>> This eloquent defense of slave-owning American Presidents is<BR>>> something less than heartening. It's almost as if we've heard<BR>>> similar arguments before from local folks interested in convincing<BR>>> us that, you know, on the whole, slavery wasn't, like, THAT bad,<BR>>> really.<BR>>><BR>>> That George and Thomas are numbered among anti-slavery<BR>>> abolitionists, as appears to be the contention here, is as ludicrous<BR>>> as it is offensive. They may not have been the absolutely worst<BR>>> slaveholders ever, but I don't think
either man's biographies are<BR>>> testimonies to their egalitarian, Christian, progressive morals.<BR>>><BR>>> Keely<BR>>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:48:58 -0800<BR>>> From: <A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com</A><BR>>> To: <A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=garrettmc@verizon.net" ymailto="mailto:garrettmc@verizon.net">garrettmc@verizon.net</A>; <A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bear@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</A><BR>>> CC: <A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Teabaggers<BR>>><BR>>> Wayne,<BR>>><BR>>> The tea was tipped overboard not because most people drank it, but<BR>>> because it denied revenue to the British. The average colonists<BR>>> didn't want to be independent from the British, but they were not<BR>>> happy under them either.<BR>>><BR>>> The British government prevented western expansion which seriously<BR>>> hindered the expansion of the economy and the well being of many<BR>>> western colonists and farmers.<BR>>><BR>>> Thomas Jefferson bought slaves and freed them when they paid their<BR>>> price of purchase off. Many anti-slavery people did this.<BR>>><BR>>> Thomas Jefferson did not sleep with his slaves, DNA tests from his<BR>>> know relatives prove this. His brother did sleep with Sally<BR>>> Hemmings, who was the half sister of his wife who passed away and<BR>>> looked a great
deal like her. He cared for her greatly and she lived<BR>>> in his house because she was his wife's sister and didn't want her<BR>>> living as a common slave.<BR>>> George Washington had willed his slaves to be freed upon the death<BR>>> of his wife. Although she freed them earlier because she felt<BR>>> uncomfortable with all the slaves asking if she was dead yet (a<BR>>> little humor, but true). Little do people know, but George<BR>>> Washington did not own many slaves, his wife owned most them, she<BR>>> obtained from her previous husband, Daniel Parke Custis a wealthy<BR>>> plantation farmer, upon his death.<BR>>><BR>>> Your Friend,<BR>>><BR>>> Donovan Arnold<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Wayne Price <<A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bear@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> From: Wayne Price <<A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bear@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</A>><BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Teabaggers<BR>>> To: "Garrett Clevenger" <<A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=garrettmc@verizon.net" ymailto="mailto:garrettmc@verizon.net">garrettmc@verizon.net</A>><BR>>> Cc: <A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>>> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 12:52 AM<BR>>><BR>>> Garrett,<BR>>><BR>>> While the Tea Bag movement has hijacked the name, I'm not so sure<BR>>> they even realize what the 1770's movements were all about!<BR>>> The average colonist was happy being British!<BR>>><BR>>> At that time in the colonies, TEA was not the drink of the
average<BR>>> (read that as NOT wealthy) colonist. Rather they drank cider,<BR>>> because they could make<BR>>> it locally, and could afford it. Ever wonder why real tea chests of<BR>>> the period have a locks on them? Because it was expensive and the<BR>>> rich didn't want the servants to<BR>>> steal it! The original so called "patriots" were nothing more than<BR>>> a bunch of folks with money trying to avoid taxes. Sound familiar?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Same deal with the folks that shot at government troops on their way<BR>>> to and from Lexington and Concord to bring the GOVERNMENT owned arms<BR>>> and powder back<BR>>> to Boston, so the colonists/traitors/early american terrorists<BR>>> couldn't use it. Can you imagine today if that happened? Makes me<BR>>> wonder what would happen if the<BR>>> average citizens marched on the local
National Guard armories so<BR>>> that they could prevent the government from using the arms! Think<BR>>> they would be considered<BR>>> "patriots"?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> I have to laugh when I see the fractured history that George<BR>>> Nethercutt is trying to sell on TV..... Did the boy never read a<BR>>> history book! I laughed when I saw one about<BR>>> George Washington being anti-slavery! One of the richest slave<BR>>> OWNERS in Virginia at the time! And then there is that scion of<BR>>> colonial america Thomas Jefferson,<BR>>> he not only owned slaves, but would bed them too! Or was that just<BR>>> for the benefit of the slaves?<BR>>><BR>>>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Garrett Clevenger wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> Thanks, Joe, you summed up well what I've been thinking.<BR>>><BR>>> It is rather presumptious of the teabaggers to think their "tea<BR>>> party movement" is anything close to the real deal back when the<BR>>> colonies were fighting for independence.<BR>>><BR>>> The contemporary tea partiers are more like carpetbaggers in that<BR>>> regard, so it seems "teabagger" is a rather appropriate term.<BR>>><BR>>> I have no idea what the sexual definition of teabagger is and don't<BR>>> really care to so when I say "teabagger" I'm describing "tea party"<BR>>>
people who are exploiting the patriotism of the Boston Tea Party.<BR>>><BR>>> But are we really surprised that people who carry guns in the open<BR>>> to rallies and shout down those who disagree with them would be<BR>>> anything less than arrogant?<BR>>><BR>>> Teabaggers, indeed.<BR>>><BR>>> Garrett Clevenger<BR>>> =======================================================<BR>>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>>> <A href="http://www.fsr.net/" target=_blank>http://www.fsr.net</A><BR>>> mailto:<A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>>>
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