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<DIV><FONT size=2>What if any of the parts/components of firearms/ammo are made
outside of Idaho? Wouldn't then the same interstate laws
apply?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>It would be hard to imagine anything of this nature being able
to be made without importing elements needed for manufacture from other
states/nations -- the right kind of metal alloys, for example. What
are they going to do? Mine, extract, smelt, and compound these
alloys wholly within Idaho? Good luck!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>W.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bear@moscow.com href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">Wayne Price</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=thansen@moscow.com
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 07, 2010 10:38
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Idaho Bill
Challenges Federal Law</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Does anyone know of a firearm made in Idaho?<BR>I know there is
a caoonon works up by C d'L, but don't know of any <BR>rifle/pistol
makers<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:54 AM, Tom Hansen
wrote:<BR><BR>> The Idagoons are at it again, V-peeps.<BR>><BR>>
Courtesy of today's (March 7, 2010) Spokesman-Review.<BR>><BR>>
---------------------------------------------------<BR>><BR>> Bill
challenges federal law<BR>> Idaho lawmakers hope to force courts to
restrict commerce clause<BR>> Betsy Z. Russell, The
Spokesman-Review<BR>><BR>> BOISE – Idaho lawmakers are gearing up to
declare guns and <BR>> ammunition made<BR>> in the state exempt
from all federal laws, including registration.<BR>><BR>> “This is
automatically going to end up in a court case, that was the<BR>> object of
this bill,” said the measure’s lead sponsor, Rep. Dick <BR>>
Harwood,<BR>> R-St. Maries. “It’s not to control guns, it’s not to do
anything, <BR>> it’s to<BR>> change. … To tell the state of Idaho
we can run our own commerce, <BR>> that’s<BR>> what this bill is
about.”<BR>><BR>> The measure is designed to match a “firearms freedom”
bill already <BR>> passed<BR>> in Montana – and already the
subject of a federal court case – along <BR>> with<BR>> pending
measures in nearly two dozen other states. The idea: To <BR>> force
a<BR>> more narrow reading of the commerce clause of the U.S.
Constitution <BR>> by the<BR>> Supreme Court, by suggesting that
the use of guns not sold across <BR>> state<BR>> lines isn’t
interstate commerce and therefore can’t be regulated at <BR>>
the<BR>> federal level.<BR>><BR>> Harwood’s bill raised legal
questions when he unveiled it. At a <BR>> committee<BR>> hearing
last week, another lawmaker distributed an Idaho attorney<BR>> general’s
opinion showing the bill was “likely unconstitutional.”<BR>><BR>> “An
attempt to nullify federal statutes is beyond the power of the <BR>>
Idaho<BR>> Legislature,” the opinion found.<BR>><BR>> But Harwood
said that’s not the point. “Y’know, the supreme law of the<BR>> land
sometimes is maybe not always right,” he said. “There was a<BR>>
prohibition law and that was not right. … They ended up turning <BR>>
around and<BR>> saying, well, what we did there was wrong.” He also cited
slavery, <BR>> saying,<BR>> “We all know that’s wrong. That didn’t
get overturned until the people<BR>> went back and said this is wrong. You
have to push the envelope. … <BR>> That’s<BR>> what this bill is
doing.”<BR>><BR>> Harwood brought Deputy Attorney General Brian Kane to
the House State<BR>> Affairs Committee to explain the law at a second
hearing. Kane said <BR>> the<BR>> bill likely is unconstitutional
under current case law, and the <BR>> attorney<BR>> general’s
office is bound by that. But, he said, if the Legislature <BR>>
wants<BR>> to set up a court fight over how the commerce clause should
be<BR>> interpreted, that’s up to lawmakers.<BR>><BR>> “That’s not a
legal question to answer; that is a policy question <BR>> for
this<BR>> Legislature,” Kane said. The bill, he said, does raise issues
that <BR>> “most<BR>> likely will need to be resolved by a court
of competent jurisdiction.”<BR>><BR>> Rep. Phil Hart, R-Athol, said, “We
want to take this to court, we <BR>> want to<BR>> create a
controversy, and that’s where we’re headed with this. And <BR>>
Idaho<BR>> will be part of a grander scheme.” The bill then was approved on
a <BR>> voice<BR>> vote, with just two “no” votes, and sent to the
full House, which <BR>> likely<BR>> will debate it this
week.<BR>><BR>> Hart said several private legal groups want to take on
the court <BR>> fight, so<BR>> it wouldn’t cost the state
anything. But Kane said the attorney <BR>> general’s<BR>> office
has a constitutional obligation to defend state laws, so if <BR>> the
law<BR>> passes, it’ll defend it.<BR>><BR>>
-----------<BR>><BR>> House Bill 589<BR>> (PDF format, 52
kilobytes)<BR>><BR>> <A
href="http://www.MoscowCares.com/Idaho/2010/HB589_IdahoFirearms.pdf">http://www.MoscowCares.com/Idaho/2010/HB589_IdahoFirearms.pdf</A><BR>><BR>>
---------------------------------------------------<BR>><BR>> So . .
.<BR>><BR>> If a firearm is manufactured and sold in the state of Idaho,
and <BR>> taken to<BR>> some out-of-state locale where it is used
in a series of robberies and<BR>> murders, there is no way of tracking
ownership of this weapon.<BR>><BR>> All this while the Aryan Nations
racist pigs are making their <BR>> reappearance<BR>> in the inland
northwest.<BR>><BR>> Heck! I don't know about you, but I feel a
whole lot safer.<BR>><BR>> Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>><BR>> Tom
Hansen<BR>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>><BR>> "The Pessimist complains about
the wind, the Optimist expects it to <BR>> change<BR>> and the
Realist adjusts his sails."<BR>><BR>> - Unknown<BR>><BR>><BR>>
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