<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div>After rummaging around the gun sites on the Internet, I think I found the motivations behind the legislation. The sale or manufacture of firearms anywhere in the US requires a Federal Firearms License. The "manufacture" license is different from the "sale" license. The manufacturer pays an excise tax. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms in 2008 issued various rules defining "manufacture" that has impacted what local gunsmiths can do in modifying for resale already existing firearms without obtaining a manufacturers' license.<br>List here: <br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/atf-changes-definition-of-manufacturer/">http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/atf-changes-definition-of-manufacturer/</a></span><br><br>This has been a
big issue for entrepreneurs engaged in small-scale modifications to firearms. One should not assume that they were all engaged in producing weapons that can be easily converted by the user to full-automatic operation (machine guns), but the bill would also nullify the federal requirement to register all machine guns and pay a $10,000 fee per weapon, if you did the modification in Idaho.<br><br>Ron Force<br>Moscow ID USA<br><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Art Deco <deco@moscow.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Tom Trail <Ttrail@house.idaho.gov><br><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, March 8, 2010 10:36:17 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Idaho Bill Challenges Federal Law<br></font><br>
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<div><font size="2">What if any of the parts/components of firearms/ammo are made
outside of Idaho? Wouldn't then the same interstate laws
apply?</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">It would be hard to imagine anything of this nature being able
to be made without importing elements needed for manufacture from other
states/nations -- the right kind of metal alloys, for example. What
are they going to do? Mine, extract, smelt, and compound these
alloys wholly within Idaho? Good luck!</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">W.</font></div>
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="thansen@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Cc:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 07, 2010 10:38
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<div><br></div>Does anyone know of a firearm made in Idaho?<br>I know there is
a caoonon works up by C d'L, but don't know of any <br>rifle/pistol
makers<br><br><br><br><br><br>On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:54 AM, Tom Hansen
wrote:<br><br>> The Idagoons are at it again, V-peeps.<br>><br>>
Courtesy of today's (March 7, 2010) Spokesman-Review.<br>><br>>
---------------------------------------------------<br>><br>> Bill
challenges federal law<br>> Idaho lawmakers hope to force courts to
restrict commerce clause<br>> Betsy Z. Russell, The
Spokesman-Review<br>><br>> BOISE – Idaho lawmakers are gearing up to
declare guns and <br>> ammunition made<br>> in the state exempt
from all federal laws, including registration.<br>><br>> “This is
automatically going to end up in a court case, that was the<br>> object of
this bill,” said the measure’s lead sponsor, Rep. Dick <br>>
Harwood,<br>> R-St. Maries. “It’s not to control guns, it’s not to do
anything, <br>> it’s to<br>> change. … To tell the state of Idaho
we can run our own commerce, <br>> that’s<br>> what this bill is
about.”<br>><br>> The measure is designed to match a “firearms freedom”
bill already <br>> passed<br>> in Montana – and already the
subject of a federal court case – along <br>> with<br>> pending
measures in nearly two dozen other states. The idea: To <br>> force
a<br>> more narrow reading of the commerce clause of the U.S.
Constitution <br>> by the<br>> Supreme Court, by suggesting that
the use of guns not sold across <br>> state<br>> lines isn’t
interstate commerce and therefore can’t be regulated at <br>>
the<br>> federal level.<br>><br>> Harwood’s bill raised legal
questions when he unveiled it. At a <br>> committee<br>> hearing
last week, another lawmaker distributed an Idaho attorney<br>> general’s
opinion showing the bill was “likely unconstitutional.”<br>><br>> “An
attempt to nullify federal statutes is beyond the power of the <br>>
Idaho<br>> Legislature,” the opinion found.<br>><br>> But Harwood
said that’s not the point. “Y’know, the supreme law of the<br>> land
sometimes is maybe not always right,” he said. “There was a<br>>
prohibition law and that was not right. … They ended up turning <br>>
around and<br>> saying, well, what we did there was wrong.” He also cited
slavery, <br>> saying,<br>> “We all know that’s wrong. That didn’t
get overturned until the people<br>> went back and said this is wrong. You
have to push the envelope. … <br>> That’s<br>> what this bill is
doing.”<br>><br>> Harwood brought Deputy Attorney General Brian Kane to
the House State<br>> Affairs Committee to explain the law at a second
hearing. Kane said <br>> the<br>> bill likely is unconstitutional
under current case law, and the <br>> attorney<br>> general’s
office is bound by that. But, he said, if the Legislature <br>>
wants<br>> to set up a court fight over how the commerce clause should
be<br>> interpreted, that’s up to lawmakers.<br>><br>> “That’s not a
legal question to answer; that is a policy question <br>> for
this<br>> Legislature,” Kane said. The bill, he said, does raise issues
that <br>> “most<br>> likely will need to be resolved by a court
of competent jurisdiction.”<br>><br>> Rep. Phil Hart, R-Athol, said, “We
want to take this to court, we <br>> want to<br>> create a
controversy, and that’s where we’re headed with this. And <br>>
Idaho<br>> will be part of a grander scheme.” The bill then was approved on
a <br>> voice<br>> vote, with just two “no” votes, and sent to the
full House, which <br>> likely<br>> will debate it this
week.<br>><br>> Hart said several private legal groups want to take on
the court <br>> fight, so<br>> it wouldn’t cost the state
anything. But Kane said the attorney <br>> general’s<br>> office
has a constitutional obligation to defend state laws, so if <br>> the
law<br>> passes, it’ll defend it.<br>><br>>
-----------<br>><br>> House Bill 589<br>> (PDF format, 52
kilobytes)<br>><br><span>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.MoscowCares.com/Idaho/2010/HB589_IdahoFirearms.pdf">http://www.MoscowCares.com/Idaho/2010/HB589_IdahoFirearms.pdf</a></span><br>><br>>
---------------------------------------------------<br>><br>> So . .
.<br>><br>> If a firearm is manufactured and sold in the state of Idaho,
and <br>> taken to<br>> some out-of-state locale where it is used
in a series of robberies and<br>> murders, there is no way of tracking
ownership of this weapon.<br>><br>> All this while the Aryan Nations
racist pigs are making their <br>> reappearance<br>> in the inland
northwest.<br>><br>> Heck! I don't know about you, but I feel a
whole lot safer.<br>><br>> Seeya round town, Moscow.<br>><br>> Tom
Hansen<br>> Moscow, Idaho<br>><br>> "The Pessimist complains about
the wind, the Optimist expects it to <br>> change<br>> and the
Realist adjusts his sails."<br>><br>> - Unknown<br>><br>><br>>
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