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<DIV><FONT color=#150e00 face=Calibri>"I would require the signing of a statement in which an employee agreed to provide all services that would ordinarily be offered by an employee working in that capacity. So if you told the truth, I wouldn't hire you, Donovan. The bill states you have to give me notification in advance of the need, so I think I would have reason to fire you if you lied, then later you refused and claimed protection under the provisions of Idaho Code 18-611."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Sue, are you for discrimination on the basis of religious or spiritual beliefs? I cannot see your statement as being anything else but. The law states so as well. </DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan Arnold <BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 2/27/10, Sue Hovey <I><suehovey@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Sue Hovey <suehovey@moscow.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Senate Bill 1353 - Freedom of Conscience<BR>To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com>, "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com>, "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><BR>Cc: gschroed@senate.state.id.us<BR>Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 10:59 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT color=#150e00 size=4 face=Calibri>Such a flip response.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#150e00 size=4 face=Calibri>It seems to me this bill has some serious flaws. Those who claim <SPAN>personhood</SPAN> begins with fertilization will certainly see it from a different perspective than those who do not. Regardless, it seems to me its flaws are more serious than its intentions are benign. I have some observations for its sponsor, but it will probably pass before I get the answers to any of my questions. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#150e00 size=4 face=Calibri>1. If one is providing a prescription s/he is killing nothing. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#150e00 size=4 face=Calibri>2. I don't see anything in the bill that speaks to having someone else there, "willing and able to do it," as you say, so I believe your premise is somewhat flawed. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#150e00 size=4 face=Calibri>3. A great many drugs, which are taken for other purposes, can sometimes cause spontaneous abortions. Should a pharmacist be allowed to refuse to fill those because s/he has reason to think a woman might be pregnant and might be planning to use them as an abortifacient? The law certainly appears to allow that in Section (2) which is crystal clear: "No health care professional shall be required to provide any health care service that violates his or her conscience." </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#150e00 size=4 face=Calibri>4. Regarding subsection six: If, in an emergency, might a health care professional kill a mother in order to save a newborn? It reads: "Shall provide treatment and care," but it doesn't specify to whom, or whether that care would have to be the kind the patient's doctor ordered. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#150e00 size=4 face=Calibri>5. Should this bill pass, If I were an employer, on the application for employment, I would require the signing of a statement in which an employee agreed to provide all services that would ordinarily be offered by an employee working in that capacity. So if you told the truth, I wouldn't hire you, Donovan. The bill states you have to give me notification in advance of the need, so I think I would have reason to fire you if you lied, then later you refused and claimed protection under the provisions of Idaho Code 18-611.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#150e00 size=4 face=Calibri>6. Interestingly, Idaho Code 18-604 doesn't identify abortifacients so much as it defines items which are not. So it certainly doesn't serve as much of a delimiter.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#150e00 size=4 face=Calibri>7. Two other issues deal with treatment using embryonic stem cells and end of life care. That one puzzles me the most--are they just gearing up in case the people of the State of Idaho pass a vote to allow assisted suicide? Like that is going to happen here!! What legal end of life measures could a person ethically refuse to do now? Seems as though that's overkill....an appropriate word, I think, for SB 1353. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#150e00 size=4 face=Calibri>And thanks to Senator Schroeder for the critical issues you raised in your debate. I appreciated what you had to say.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title="mailto:donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 26, 2010 10:28 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</A> ; <A title="mailto:thansen@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A> </DIV>
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<DIV>I think it is a good idea to give health care provides the option of declining to kill a baby, etus, embryo, zygote, or fertilized egg if someone else is there willing and able to do it. Why not?</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 2/26/10, Tom Hansen <I><<A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>></I></B> wrote:.<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Tom Hansen <<A title="mailto:thansen@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR>Subject: [Vision2020] Senate Bill 1353 - Freedom of Conscience<BR>To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <<A title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 7:50 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Greetings <SPAN>Visionaires</SPAN> -<BR><BR>Today in the Idaho Senate, Senate Bill 1353 passed by a vote of 21 to 13.<BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Senate Bill 1353<BR>(by STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE)<BR><BR>FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE - HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS - Adds to existing law<BR>relating to abortion and end of life care to provide freedom of conscience<BR>for health care professionals.<BR><BR>Senate Bill 1353<BR><A title="http://www.tomandrodna.com/Idaho/S_1353_Abortion_FreedomOfConscience.pdf CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/Idaho/S_1353_Abortion_FreedomOfConscience.pdf" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.tomandrodna.com/Idaho/S_1353_Abortion_FreedomOfConscience.pdf</A><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>District 6's own Senator Schroeder commented prior to submitting his vote.<BR><BR><A
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