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<DIV>I am employed, have a life, and go to school and don't have time to research the gossipy juicy tidbits about Wilson. So, Batman, Sgt.Hampster, and Rev. Keely, what else can you tell us about Doug Wilson's member? We got ships to sink, so let the loose lips rip.</DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan Arnold<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 2/11/10, <SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>keely</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> <SPAN>emerinemix</SPAN> <I><kjajmix1@msn.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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More disturbing is that Moscow's most famous pastor, and evangelicalism's puzzling new defender of the faith, actually thinks that the incarceration of criminals, according to the article below, is proof that slavery still exists.<BR><BR>The third grader Wayne refers to below might not quite see the difference, but any reasonably educated adult surely could -- and would understand immediately why I describe evangelicalism's view of Wilson as an apt apologist for the Christian faith as "puzzling." In fact, most of them would come up with adjectives much stronger than that. <BR><BR><FONT color=#8064a2><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size=3><FONT face=Verdana>Keely<BR>www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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From: deco@moscow.com<BR>To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:58:44 -0800<BR>Subject: [Vision2020] Douglas Wilson steps on his member again<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>From the <EM>Daily News</EM> Article below:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>"Wilson said morality cannot evolve over time."<BR><BR>"Wilson said there are good and bad things in the Bible. He said there are certain things that are wrong now, but used to be good back in time."<BR></FONT><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Wouldn't even an average third grader see the contradiction here?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Should there be some kind of God, Cultmaster Douglas Wilson is certainly one of God's more self-amusing curses upon humankind</FONT>.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Wayne A. Fox<BR>1009 Karen Lane<BR>PO Box 9421<BR>Moscow, ID 83843</FONT></DIV>
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<H1>Pastor, WSU atheist group discuss film</H1>
<H3>Local pastor, WSU atheist group debate</H3>
<P id=ecxbyline>By Yesenia Amaro, Daily News staff writer</DIV>
<P id=ecxstorydate>Posted on: Thursday, February 11, 2010</DIV>
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<P class=ecxstorybody>What was supposed to be a question-and-answer session turned into a debate after the showing of the documentary "Collision" at Washington State University on Wednesday night. </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>The documentary, which was released in October, features Christ Church pastor Doug Wilson of Moscow and Christopher Hitchens, well-known journalist and author of the bestselling book "God is Not Great." In the documentary, Wilson and Hitchens debate each other. </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>The debate continued after the showing of the film, which was sponsored by Collegiate Reformed Fellowship of Christ Church and the WSU Atheist/Agnostic group. </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>Wilson debated with the adviser of the atheist/agnostic group, Ph.D student Raj Poudel, and group member and undergraduate student Jenae Reese. </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>Evolution of morality was one of many issues that were debated during the event. </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>Wilson said morality cannot evolve over time. </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>Reese disagreed and discussed slavery as an example of how morality has evolved over time. She said in the past, people didn't think it was wrong to own slaves, but that since then has changed. </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>"That's a clear evolutionary path that morality has taken," she said. </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>Wilson said slavery still exists. </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>"Incarceration is slavery," he said, adding there's thousands of people in prison. </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>Reese said Wilson was confusing two different things. She said slaves didn't have a choice, while people in prison made the decision to commit something that was wrong, which is the reason they are incarcerated. </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>Poudel asked Wilson why he was "scared of even using the word evolution." </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>"It's not scary, " Wilson responded. "It's a distasteful thing for me." </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>Wilson said there are good and bad things in the Bible. He said there are certain things that are wrong now, but used to be good back in time.</DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>"I don't want to apologize for anything in the Bible," he said. </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>Reese said if God knows the past, present and the future, he "should have known that owning a slave was bad back then." </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>As the three of them continued their debate for almost an hour and a half, Wilson said he always thinks he's right, but he knows that isn't always the case.</DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>"I'm not unique," he said. "Everybody always thinks they are right, that is why they say what they say."</DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>He said he would abandon his faith if a grave with Jesus' body was discovered. </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>On other hand, Poudel said if somebody could prove to him that there is a God, he would believe it.</DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody>"I don't say there's no God ... ," he said. But "there's overwhelming evidence that points to there not being a creator. I don't know where life came from. Science doesn't explain that yet. I don't claim to know that truth, I don't know where we came from." </DIV>
<P class=ecxstorybody><STRONG>Yesenia Amaro</STRONG> can be reached at (208) 882-5561, ext. 237, or by e-mail at<A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=%20yamaro@dnews.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:%20yamaro@dnews.com"> yamaro@dnews.com</A>.</DIV></DIV><BR>
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