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<DIV>I know who Morris Dees is. I was a member of the Human Rights Task Force through its North Idaho College College student group, called the NIC Human Equality Club, where I served as Vice-President in the club, our mentor was Tony Stewart, now an officer for the Task Force.</DIV>
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<DIV> I lived in Hayden for 8 years, about 2 miles from the Aryan Nations Compound. I drove past it every time I went to my best friends house. I avoided eating at the Owl Cafe because that restaurant reserved a table for Butler and his cronies. </DIV>
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<DIV>Morris Dees was brought in by the Human Rights Task Force to bring down the Aryan Nations by suing him into debt in a case involving a woman and her son by members of the Aryan Nations.</DIV>
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<DIV>Morris Dees was successful in suing and getting the compound and destroying it. However, let us not forget, that it was the work of thousands of people like Tony Stewart and members of the Task Force that were fighting the Aryan Nations for decades, even when the Aryans were supported by a significant portion of the population, that enabled Dees to have the kind of success he did. </DIV>
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<DIV>I don't think his work, as good as it is, was comparable to that non-lawyers in the field fighting for human rights, and it didn't compare to the winning of enough battles to defeat a nation and giving the nation its independence. </DIV>
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<DIV>There are a few good people that happen to be lawyers, but there is no good lawyer, except for the ones that are dead, quit practicing, or work for free or about $40 an hour.</DIV>
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<DIV>I only know of one practicing Moscow lawyer that I know and like personally, but I don't think that person is a good lawyer at all, and would not want them representing me.</DIV>
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<DIV>Basically, I don't like the way modern lawyers think about people, justice, and the community. </DIV>
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<DIV>Your Friend,</DIV>
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<DIV> <BR>--- On <B>Wed, 2/3/10, Sue <SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>Hovey</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> <I><suehovey@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Sue <SPAN>Hovey</SPAN> <suehovey@moscow.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?<BR>To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com>, "Andreas Schou" <ophite@gmail.com>, "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><BR>Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 10:17 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT color=#150e00 size=4 face=Calibri>And this tells me you don't know who Morris Dees is...and your words below also tell me you don't mean it in your emails where you acknowledge there are "a few good lawyers." That's just a cowardly statement to give you an out when you deal with local attorneys on the Viz. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title="mailto:donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:46 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ophite@gmail.com href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ophite@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">Andreas Schou</A> ; <A title="mailto:thansen@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A> ; <A title=suehovey@moscow.com href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suehovey@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
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<DIV>And yet the problem with your analogy is that points to the reality that even a traitor of Benedict's caliber has done more for the country than the best of men with a law degree.</DIV>
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<DIV>Your Friend,</DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan Arnold<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 2/3/10, Sue <SPAN>Hovey</SPAN> <I><<A href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suehovey@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</A>></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#150e00 size=4 face=Calibri>Well Donovan, you're at it again with your generalizations tailor made to fit your rhetoric, e.g.. colonels and colons. Let's see now: Benedict Arnold, the soldier, as opposed to Morris Dees, the trial lawyer. To quote Donovan, "One is full of honor and the other?" </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title="mailto:donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank>Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 01, 2010 1:32 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title="mailto:ophite@gmail.com CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ophite@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank>Andreas Schou</A> ; <A title=thansen@moscow.com href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank>Tom Hansen</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank>vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
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<DIV>The problem with Hansen's analogy is that what a colonel has to say has some relevance and truth to it in the real world, where as the words of a trial lawyer usually don't. </DIV>
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<DIV>I hope Hansen will refrain from insulting men and women in uniform by reducing their relevancy to that of a trial lawyer. They deserve better than this. Soldiers put their lives on the line, they fight for something real.... They serve their country and others with honor. The polar opposite of most lawyers.</DIV>
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<DIV>There is as much difference between a colonel and trial lawyer as there is between a colonel and a colon. One is full of honor the other full is full of, well, I will let you fill in the blank. </DIV>
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<DIV>Your Friend,</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 2/1/10, Tom Hansen <I><thansen@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=plainMail>“Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be<BR>guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? I have more<BR>responsibility here than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago,<BR>and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of<BR>not knowing what I know. That Santiago’s death, while tragic, probably<BR>saved lives. And that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible<BR>to you, saves lives. I know deep down in places you don't talk about at<BR>parties, you don’t want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use<BR>words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a<BR>life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have<BR>neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises<BR>and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question<BR>the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you
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