<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Simple solution, CLOSE THE SITE TO CABINS.<div><br></div><div>That way the people that "own" them won't have to dump "a fortune to do any renovations".</div><div>The lake will no longer be polluted by sub standard sewage systems.</div><div><br></div><div>Win / win</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Bill London wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div bgcolor="#ffffff"><div><font size="2" face="Arial">I lived in Benewah County and am familiar with the cabins issue.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">The point is that the cabins have been dumping sewage into the lake since they were built with inadequate septic systems years ago.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">The cabin owners are now whining about doing their part to keep the lake healthy.</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">It is not a sad situation, it's pathetic</font></div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">BL</font></div><blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2008@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="london@moscow.com" href="mailto:london@moscow.com">Bill London</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="bear@moscow.com" href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">Wayne Price</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, January 29, 2010 6:12 PM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vision2020] Schroeder Weighs in on Health Rule</div><div><br></div><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><div>Talk to someone with a cabin in Worley and you will understand how unfair all the regulations are. A lot of the homes on the lake are older, been in the family for generations. Now the government comes in and wants a fortune to do any renovations on their own property. Many of the regulations are pointless and cost some homeowners everything they have to comply with. It really is sad.</div><div> </div><div>Your Friend,</div><div> </div><div>Donovan Arnold<br><br>--- On<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Fri, 1/29/10, Wayne Price<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i><<a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</a>></i></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; "><br>From: Wayne Price <<a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com">bear@moscow.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Schroeder Weighs in on Health Rule<br>To: "Bill London" <<a href="mailto:london@moscow.com">london@moscow.com</a>><br>Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 9:30 PM<br><br><div id="yiv225059574">MONEY and or influence of the Chipman family on the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span><span>Palouse</span></span>, plain and simple.<div><br></div><div>Or is it a different CHIPMAN family that got the trail named after them? The same trail that used to have a heavy rail track bed that could have been used for light rail transit between Moscow and Pullman. But then if that would have happened it would have meant few car sales and not needing a freeway between Moscow and Pullman. Think about it.<br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 29, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Bill London wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal medium/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; letter-spacing: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); word-spacing: 0px; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font size="2" face="Arial">Why is Idaho Senator Schroeder siding with a Washington resident against the best interests of the people of Idaho and the safety of the water of Lake Coeur d'Alene?</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font size="2" face="Arial">BL</font></div><blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="rforce2003@yahoo.com" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rforce2003@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">Ron Force</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, January 29, 2010 10:44 AM</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Vision2020] Schroeder Weighs in on Health Rule</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Lake cabin permit flap prompts legislation<br>Bill would drop limit on home expansions<br>Betsy Z. Russell<br>The Spokesman-Review<br> <br>BOISE – An Idaho lawmaker upset that regulators refuse to bend the rules for a Worley-area cabin owner with an inadequate septic system is proposing legislation that threatens to undermine the Panhandle Health District’s ability to keep sewage out of North Idaho lakes and streams.<br><br>“I’m just getting their attention up there,” said state Sen. Gary Schroeder, R-Moscow. He added that even if SCR 114 were to be approved, the health district could re-establish its own regulatory authority by writing “another rule tomorrow.”<br><br>The health district disagrees.<br><br>“Neither the board nor I feel that that’s in the best interest of the public in general,” said Dale Peck, environmental response and technology director for the district.<br><br>The legislation would affect all homes on substandard sewer systems in the five counties of the Idaho Panhandle. Currently, those homes have “vested rights” to continue using their old septic systems as long as they don’t expand their buildings by more than 10 percent. Schroeder’s legislation would remove the expansion limits.<br><br>Schroeder said he introduced the measure on behalf of a Pullman resident who built a big cabin – 2,749 square feet – on Lake Coeur d’Alene but now can’t get an occupancy permit to use it.<br><br>That’s because when the owner, Carol Chipman, built the home near Worley, a condition on her building permit required her to tear down a 1,248-square-foot cabin and a second 893-square-foot cabin on an adjacent lot. The newer home exceeds the 10 percent limit, but Panhandle Health decided to allow the swap. Both 1950s-era cabins were on substandard septic systems, as is the new home.<br><br>However, Chipman now is refusing to tear down the second cabin.<br><br>Schroeder said Chipman’s project came at the same time the 10 percent rule was taking effect, and she was caught in the changeover. She’d already torn down the larger of the two old cabins before she and her contractor realized the rules had changed.<br><br>“I think that they should have the flexibility to solve a problem for people that are caught in a time warp when there’s a rule change like this,” Schroeder said.<br><br>Before 2007, the health district prevented replacement homes on substandard sewer systems from having more bedrooms than the structures they replaced. Schroeder said Chipman’s new house meets that old standard.<br><br>Schroeder, Chipman and Sen. Joyce Broadsword, R-Sagle, met with Panhandle Health officials in September to discuss the case, and all sides came away thinking the problem had been resolved. Peck said Chipman’s options include developing a compliant drain field to serve both structures so she wouldn’t need to tear down the old cabin. On Oct.. 13, she submitted a permit to do just that, “so that is in process,” Peck said. However, she’s not yet identified a site for a new drain field.<br><br>Meanwhile, Chipman’s building permit has been extended to June to allow for that, Peck said.<br><br>“I felt she had options,” Broadsword said.<br><br>Schroeder said if the health district would just give Chipman an occupancy permit, he’d withdraw his legislation. “I think government is being inflexible,” he said. “I think a citizen got caught in the middle of a rule change.”<br><br>The health district disagrees; Peck said its board will discuss Schroeder’s bill at its meeting Thursday.<br><br>Broadsword said she thinks the district could be more flexible. “I’m not saying the rule is bad – I just think there needs to be a little more flexibility,” she said.<br><br>Schroeder likened it to a situation in his district when the state department of Fish and Game changed the border of a hunting unit, and hunters who didn’t realize the change had happened took game on the wrong side of the line. The agency opted just to give warnings the first year, he said.<br><br>“I want them to solve this,” Schroeder said. “The rules have changed. … That’s my only issue.”<br><br></div></div><br><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>=======================================================<br> List services made available by First Step Internet,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.fsr.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net</a> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://us..mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================</blockquote>=======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br> <a href="http://www.fsr.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> <br> <a href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================</div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div><br>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<br><br><div class="plainMail">=======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br> <a href="http://www.fsr.net/" target="_blank">http://www.fsr.net</a> <br> mailto:<a href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================</div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table><br></blockquote></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>