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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Had I posted it in it's entirety I fail to see how it
would have changed anything. My "faulty memory" made no reference to Senator
Schroeder's concepts of responsible firearms ownership which I'm quite sure are
sound and reasonable.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Placing any additional restrictions on a citizens ability
to carry a firearm over and above what is stipulated in the State and Federal
Constitution is by definition an attempt to limit second
amendment protections.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Just out of curiousity, whose definition of responsible
firearms use would you like to have put in place, the NRA's or HCI's, Michael
Bloomberg's or Ted Nugent's?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=idahotom@hotmail.com href="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com">Tom
Hansen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jampot@roadrunner.com
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:32
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Schroeder's
Tactics Underhanded</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Mr. Crabtree -<BR> <BR>Perhaps you should haveposted the
October 19, 2007 article in its entirety (see attached PDF file), such as . .
.<BR> <BR>-----------------------------------------------------<BR> <BR>
<P class=storybody>Chaney will ask legislators to change laws <BR>Posted on:
Friday, October 19, 2007</P>
<P class=storybody> </P>
<P class=storybody>Moscow Mayor Nancy Chaney said Thursday she is drafting a
letter to state representatives requesting they work toward allowing Idaho
cities to regulate firearms.</P>
<P class=storybody> </P>
<P class=storybody>Chaney said she would like to be able to ban weapons in
places like City Hall, city parks and city-run youth facilities.</P>
<P class=storybody> </P>
<P class=storybody>In August, Chaney asked City Attorney Randy Fife to write
to the Idaho Attorney General’s Office to determine whether the city had the
authority to regulate firearms. </P>
<P class=storybody> </P>
<P class=storybody>Chaney said the letter will be sent to Reps. Shirley Ringo
and Tom Trail and Sen. Gary Schroeder before the next legislative session,
which begins in January.</P>
<P class=storybody> </P>
<P class=storybody>Deputy Attorney General Stephen A. Bywater sent a reply in
September stating that the city cannot restrict people from legally carrying
firearms.</P>
<P class=storybody> </P>
<P class=storybody>Chaney said her letter also will ask the legislators to
consider making requirements for concealed-weapons permits more stringent, and
to support programs that would encourage “responsible use of firearms,” gun
safety and nonviolent conflict
resolution.aws</P> <BR>-----------------------------------------------------<BR> <BR>That
last paragraph doesn't seem to reflect any intent, on Mayor Chaney's behalf,
to deny anybody their second amendment rights, now does it? Or is
a “responsible use of firearms” a whole new concept to Senator
Schroeder?<BR> <BR>By the way, V-peeps: It appears to be a "go" for
the Second Annual Intolerista Wingding (with Roy Zimmerman) in
April/May. His contact person (and significant other) informs me that
May is preferable to Roy. Details will be worked out
after Holiday/Christmas/Xmas break. Instead of the 1912 Center, I
am opting for the Kenworthy. There's something about "Second Annual
Intolerista Wingding" in BIG capital letters on the Kenworthy marquee that
really appeals to me. Best news, though, is . . . it will be FREE to
those who attend.<BR> <BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho<BR> <BR>
<P class=EC_EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" color=#000000>"For a
lapsed Lutheran born-again Buddhist pan-Humanist Universalist Unitarian Wiccan
Agnostic like myself there's really no reason ever to go to work."</FONT></P>
<P class=EC_EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New"
color=#000000></FONT> </P>
<P class=EC_EC_MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" color=#000000>- Roy
Zimmerman</FONT></P><BR><BR><BR> <BR>
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From: jampot@roadrunner.com<BR>To: thansen@moscow.com<BR>Date: Tue, 24 Nov
2009 06:56:46 -0800<BR>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Schroeder's Tactics Underhanded<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From the 19 October, 2007 edition of the Daily
News:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>"In August, Chaney asked City Attorney Randy Fife to write
to the Idaho Attorney General’s Office to determine whether the city had the
authority to regulate firearms. </FONT><BR><FONT size=2><STRONG>Chaney said
the letter will be sent to Reps. Shirley Ringo and Tom Trail and Sen. Gary
Schroeder before the next legislative session</STRONG>, which begins in
January.</FONT><BR><FONT size=2><STRONG>Deputy Attorney General Stephen A.
Bywater sent a reply in September stating that the city cannot restrict people
from legally carrying firearms</STRONG>."</FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>g</FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Tom Hansen" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:17
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Schroeder's Tactics
Underhanded</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>> Gary Crabtree stated:<BR>> <BR>> "It is also my recollection
that our esteemed mayors request went<BR>> beyond/around the city council
and was taken to the state attorney general<BR>> who thankfully nixed the
whole idiot idea."<BR>> <BR>> Would you happen to have evidence of your
"recollection", Mr. Crabtree? <BR>> Or are we to rely on your faulty
memory?<BR>> <BR>> I will be posting the video of the city council
session, in question,<BR>> later today, and let the people judge for
themselves.<BR>> <BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>>
<BR>>> "Chaney sought City Council approval to investigate whether state
law<BR>>> could<BR>>> be modified to allow prohibiting guns in
certain public locations, such as<BR>>> City
Hall."<BR>>><BR>>> This is, of course, not exactly correct. The
request at that time was to<BR>>> disallow legally carried weapons on
city property. This would/could have<BR>>> been construed as meaning
parks, sidewalks, city parking lots, and even<BR>>> streets. This would
have violated Idaho's open carry regs as well as<BR>>> rendering a
persons CWP useless.<BR>>><BR>>> It is also my recollection that
our esteemed mayors request went<BR>>> beyond/around the city council
and was taken to the state attorney general<BR>>> who thankfully nixed
the whole idiot idea.<BR>>><BR>>>
g<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>>>
From: "Tom Hansen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:45 AM<BR>>>
Subject: [Vision2020] Schroeder's Tactics
Underhanded<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>> Courtesy of the "Letters
to the Editor" section of today's (November 24,<BR>>>> 2009)
Moscow-Pullman Daily News with a special thanks to the Lady
from<BR>>>> Six, Rep. Shirley Ringo.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
-----------------------------------------------<BR>>>><BR>>>>
Schroeder's tactics underhanded<BR>>>><BR>>>> City elections
are becoming increasingly partisan. In our recent mayoral<BR>>>>
election, Sen. Gary Schroeder, R-Latah County, supported John
Weber<BR>>>> aggressively and, I think,
offensively.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Schroeder used a confidential
City Council memo that had been leaked to<BR>>>> write a stinging
letter to the editor - attacking Mayor Nancy Chaney<BR>>>>
while<BR>>>> distorting her views and
actions.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Schroeder also mailed (and paid for)
a letter to a targeted audience<BR>>>> attacking Chaney, again
inaccurately.<BR>>>><BR>>>> "It's time to remember Nancy
Chaney's war on your second amendment<BR>>>> rights," he blared. I
remember this "war." It stemmed from the concern<BR>>>>
of<BR>>>> city employees who were approached by individuals who were
hot under the<BR>>>> collar about given issues and who carried guns.
Considering news here<BR>>>> and<BR>>>> around the country,
one can understand why these employees were
edgy.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Chaney sought City Council approval to
investigate whether state law<BR>>>> could<BR>>>> be
modified to allow prohibiting guns in certain public locations,
such<BR>>>> as<BR>>>> City Hall. The council declined, and
she took it no further.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Incredibly, Schroeder
twisted the facts to suggest Chaney might try to<BR>>>>
ban<BR>>>> guns in city limits, speculating that folks who carry guns
would have<BR>>>> great difficulty passing through Riggins while
attempting to travel to<BR>>>> south
Idaho.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Both Schroeder's letter to the editor
and the mailed letter were timed<BR>>>> for<BR>>>> the
weekend before Election Day - the waning hours of the campaign
and<BR>>>> too<BR>>>> late for Chaney to respond
effectively. His 11th-hour tactics were<BR>>>> designed to push
emotional buttons, not to promote open, civil and<BR>>>>
honest<BR>>>> discussion of the
issues.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Schroeder reminds me of Richard Nixon,
who was also intelligent and<BR>>>> reasonably moderate. It is said
that Nixon didn't have political<BR>>>> opponents, rather he had
enemies. That is the nature of Schroeder's<BR>>>> underhanded
behavior. He compromises his own
effectiveness.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Shirley Ringo,
Moscow<BR>>>><BR>>>> The writer is a Democrat and District 6
representative to the Idaho<BR>>>>
Legislature.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
-----------------------------------------------<BR>>>><BR>>>>
Ah, yes. State Senator Gary Schroeder. The very same Senator
Gary<BR>>>> "Stan<BR>>>> Laurel" Schroeder who, along with
Moscow Councilman Water "Oliver Hardy"<BR>>>> Steed, tried
(unsuccessfully) to backdoor legislation through the Idaho<BR>>>>
legislature allowing the sale of water rights across state
lines.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Well, as Lorne Green once said in a
favorite song of mine . . .<BR>>>><BR>>>> "All through the
west they feared the name of Ringo."<BR>>>><BR>>>> Thanks,
Rep. Shirley.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Seeya round town,
Moscow,<BR>>>><BR>>>> Tom Hansen<BR>>>> Moscow,
Idaho<BR>>>><BR>>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind,
the Optimist expects it to<BR>>>> change<BR>>>> and the
Realist adjusts his sails."<BR>>>><BR>>>> -
Unknown<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>
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