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Mr. Crabtree -<BR>
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Perhaps you should haveposted the October 19, 2007 article in its entirety (see attached PDF file), such as . . .<BR>
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<P class=storybody>Chaney will ask legislators to change laws <BR>Posted on: Friday, October 19, 2007</P>
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<P class=storybody>Moscow Mayor Nancy Chaney said Thursday she is drafting a letter to state representatives requesting they work toward allowing Idaho cities to regulate firearms.</P>
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<P class=storybody>Chaney said she would like to be able to ban weapons in places like City Hall, city parks and city-run youth facilities.</P>
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<P class=storybody>In August, Chaney asked City Attorney Randy Fife to write to the Idaho Attorney General’s Office to determine whether the city had the authority to regulate firearms. </P>
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<P class=storybody>Chaney said the letter will be sent to Reps. Shirley Ringo and Tom Trail and Sen. Gary Schroeder before the next legislative session, which begins in January.</P>
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<P class=storybody>Deputy Attorney General Stephen A. Bywater sent a reply in September stating that the city cannot restrict people from legally carrying firearms.</P>
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<P class=storybody>Chaney said her letter also will ask the legislators to consider making requirements for concealed-weapons permits more stringent, and to support programs that would encourage “responsible use of firearms,” gun safety and nonviolent conflict resolution.aws</P>
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That last paragraph doesn't seem to reflect any intent, on Mayor Chaney's behalf, to deny anybody their second amendment rights, now does it? Or is a “responsible use of firearms” a whole new concept to Senator Schroeder?<BR>
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By the way, V-peeps: It appears to be a "go" for the Second Annual Intolerista Wingding (with Roy Zimmerman) in April/May. His contact person (and significant other) informs me that May is preferable to Roy. Details will be worked out after Holiday/Christmas/Xmas break. Instead of the 1912 Center, I am opting for the Kenworthy. There's something about "Second Annual Intolerista Wingding" in BIG capital letters on the Kenworthy marquee that really appeals to me. Best news, though, is . . . it will be FREE to those who attend.<BR>
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Tom Hansen<BR>
Moscow, Idaho<BR> <BR>
<P class=EC_EC_MsoPlainText><FONT color=#000000 face="Courier New">"For a lapsed Lutheran born-again Buddhist pan-Humanist Universalist Unitarian Wiccan Agnostic like myself there's really no reason ever to go to work."</FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_EC_MsoPlainText><FONT color=#000000 face="Courier New">- Roy Zimmerman</FONT></P><BR><BR><BR>
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From: jampot@roadrunner.com<BR>To: thansen@moscow.com<BR>Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:56:46 -0800<BR>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Schroeder's Tactics Underhanded<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>From the 19 October, 2007 edition of the Daily News:</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=2>"In August, Chaney asked City Attorney Randy Fife to write to the Idaho Attorney General’s Office to determine whether the city had the authority to regulate firearms. </FONT><BR>
<FONT size=2><STRONG>Chaney said the letter will be sent to Reps. Shirley Ringo and Tom Trail and Sen. Gary Schroeder before the next legislative session</STRONG>, which begins in January.</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=2><STRONG>Deputy Attorney General Stephen A. Bywater sent a reply in September stating that the city cannot restrict people from legally carrying firearms</STRONG>."</FONT><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>From: "Tom Hansen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT size=2 face=Arial>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=2 face=Arial>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>To: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT size=2 face=Arial>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT size=2 face=Arial>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT size=2 face=Arial>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=2 face=Arial>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:17 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Schroeder's Tactics Underhanded</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>> Gary Crabtree stated:<BR>> <BR>> "It is also my recollection that our esteemed mayors request went<BR>> beyond/around the city council and was taken to the state attorney general<BR>> who thankfully nixed the whole idiot idea."<BR>> <BR>> Would you happen to have evidence of your "recollection", Mr. Crabtree? <BR>> Or are we to rely on your faulty memory?<BR>> <BR>> I will be posting the video of the city council session, in question,<BR>> later today, and let the people judge for themselves.<BR>> <BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>> <BR>>> "Chaney sought City Council approval to investigate whether state law<BR>>> could<BR>>> be modified to allow prohibiting guns in certain public locations, such as<BR>>> City Hall."<BR>>><BR>>> This is, of course, not exactly correct. The request at that time was to<BR>>> disallow legally carried weapons on city property. This would/could have<BR>>> been construed as meaning parks, sidewalks, city parking lots, and even<BR>>> streets. This would have violated Idaho's open carry regs as well as<BR>>> rendering a persons CWP useless.<BR>>><BR>>> It is also my recollection that our esteemed mayors request went<BR>>> beyond/around the city council and was taken to the state attorney general<BR>>> who thankfully nixed the whole idiot idea.<BR>>><BR>>> g<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>>> From: "Tom Hansen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT size=2 face=Arial>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=2 face=Arial>><BR>>> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT size=2 face=Arial>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=2 face=Arial>><BR>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:45 AM<BR>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Schroeder's Tactics Underhanded<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>> Courtesy of the "Letters to the Editor" section of today's (November 24,<BR>>>> 2009) Moscow-Pullman Daily News with a special thanks to the Lady from<BR>>>> Six, Rep. Shirley Ringo.<BR>>>><BR>>>> -----------------------------------------------<BR>>>><BR>>>> Schroeder's tactics underhanded<BR>>>><BR>>>> City elections are becoming increasingly partisan. In our recent mayoral<BR>>>> election, Sen. Gary Schroeder, R-Latah County, supported John Weber<BR>>>> aggressively and, I think, offensively.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Schroeder used a confidential City Council memo that had been leaked to<BR>>>> write a stinging letter to the editor - attacking Mayor Nancy Chaney<BR>>>> while<BR>>>> distorting her views and actions.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Schroeder also mailed (and paid for) a letter to a targeted audience<BR>>>> attacking Chaney, again inaccurately.<BR>>>><BR>>>> "It's time to remember Nancy Chaney's war on your second amendment<BR>>>> rights," he blared. I remember this "war." It stemmed from the concern<BR>>>> of<BR>>>> city employees who were approached by individuals who were hot under the<BR>>>> collar about given issues and who carried guns. Considering news here<BR>>>> and<BR>>>> around the country, one can understand why these employees were edgy.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Chaney sought City Council approval to investigate whether state law<BR>>>> could<BR>>>> be modified to allow prohibiting guns in certain public locations, such<BR>>>> as<BR>>>> City Hall. The council declined, and she took it no further.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Incredibly, Schroeder twisted the facts to suggest Chaney might try to<BR>>>> ban<BR>>>> guns in city limits, speculating that folks who carry guns would have<BR>>>> great difficulty passing through Riggins while attempting to travel to<BR>>>> south Idaho.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Both Schroeder's letter to the editor and the mailed letter were timed<BR>>>> for<BR>>>> the weekend before Election Day - the waning hours of the campaign and<BR>>>> too<BR>>>> late for Chaney to respond effectively. His 11th-hour tactics were<BR>>>> designed to push emotional buttons, not to promote open, civil and<BR>>>> honest<BR>>>> discussion of the issues.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Schroeder reminds me of Richard Nixon, who was also intelligent and<BR>>>> reasonably moderate. It is said that Nixon didn't have political<BR>>>> opponents, rather he had enemies. That is the nature of Schroeder's<BR>>>> underhanded behavior. He compromises his own effectiveness.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Shirley Ringo, Moscow<BR>>>><BR>>>> The writer is a Democrat and District 6 representative to the Idaho<BR>>>> Legislature.<BR>>>><BR>>>> -----------------------------------------------<BR>>>><BR>>>> Ah, yes. State Senator Gary Schroeder. The very same Senator Gary<BR>>>> "Stan<BR>>>> Laurel" Schroeder who, along with Moscow Councilman Water "Oliver Hardy"<BR>>>> Steed, tried (unsuccessfully) to backdoor legislation through the Idaho<BR>>>> legislature allowing the sale of water rights across state lines.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Well, as Lorne Green once said in a favorite song of mine . . .<BR>>>><BR>>>> "All through the west they feared the name of Ringo."<BR>>>><BR>>>> Thanks, Rep. Shirley.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Seeya round town, Moscow,<BR>>>><BR>>>> Tom Hansen<BR>>>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>>>><BR>>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to<BR>>>> change<BR>>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."<BR>>>><BR>>>> - Unknown<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> =======================================================<BR>>>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>>>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>>>> </FONT><A href="http://www.fsr.net/"><FONT size=2 face=Arial>http://www.fsr.net</FONT></A><BR><FONT size=2 face=Arial>>>> </FONT><A href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT size=2 face=Arial>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT size=2 face=Arial>>>> =======================================================<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change<BR>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."<BR>> <BR>> - Unknown<BR>> <BR>></FONT> </body>
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