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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The thought is not the deed, Donovan. Wanting to
not see something on a billboard is one thing---averting one's eyes generally
works. Defacing said object is quite another, and no, I can't imagine myself
doing such a thing. There are several religious organizations which annoy the
stuff out of me, but I would never deface their bulding or harm their property.
They are entitled to believe and follow whatever path they choose.And even
though I believe differently than they believe, vandalism is not the way to
show that nor to influence others away from them...You are correct in one thing.
Of course, being that humans are often less than rational (especially around
issues of religion), such behaviour is likely from frightened and/or foolish
humans. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Debi R-S</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=garrettmc@verizon.net
href="mailto:garrettmc@verizon.net">Garrett Clevenger</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=debismith@moscow.com href="mailto:debismith@moscow.com">deb</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:18
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] vandals strike
again (I fixed it for you Donovan)</DIV>
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<DIV>Debi, </DIV>
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<DIV>Is there nothing on a billboard that could be so offensive to you
that you would want to see it vandalized or removed? I find that hard to
imagine. </DIV>
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<DIV>I can think of lots of things that could be on a billboard to make
me want to take it down. If God is important to someone, which He
is, it is going to be offensive, and people don't want to be forced to
look at highly offensive things every day. </DIV>
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<DIV>I'm not saying I would advocate this method of removing the
billboard, because I don't. But when they have a huge audience of
people and they say something negative and offensive some of them
are going to react in a bad way. It is inevitable. </DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan Arnold<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 11/8/09, deb
<I><debismith@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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deb <debismith@moscow.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vandals
strike again (I fixed it for you Donovan)<BR>To: "Garrett Clevenger"
<garrettmc@verizon.net>, vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Date: Sunday,
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just don't understand how anyone with
faith in their religion would be so threatened by a billboard
that he or she would deface said billboard. Of course, I
don't understand how someone <SPAN>else's</SPAN> relationship
(straight or gay) would threaten my marriage. All I can think is
the "faith" expressed is pretty puny if it can't stand the stress of
such external goings on...Methinks they do protest too much? Faith
that easily shaken is no faith at all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just
<SPAN><SPAN>sayin</SPAN></SPAN>'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Debi R-S</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title=garrettmc@verizon.net
href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=garrettmc@verizon.net"
target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:garrettmc@verizon.net">Garrett Clevenger</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com"
target=_blank rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 07,
2009 10:25 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] vandals
strike again (I fixed it for you Donovan)</DIV>
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<DIV>Mike said what I would have said. I would only change
"Christians" to say "religious fanatics."</DIV>
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<DIV>It's intersting that some justify the vandalism because they
were offended and threatened by the billboard. An an analogy
would be justifying James killing of Tyler because James felt
threatened by him. James edited that threat like the vandals
edited the words, only a billboard is less threatening than a
jealous man. Obviously a dead man is a way worse outcome than
a vandalized billboard.</DIV>
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<DIV>Both are crimes that should be put in the proper context and
should have the proper punishment.</DIV>
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<DIV>Mike writes:<BR><BR></DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-FAMILY: Times"><PRE> "This makes at least as much sense.
Donovan,
I agree that there are a great number of Christians that are not out to do harm, and just want to be left alone and want to leave atheists alone.. Unfortunately, that is not the case for most Christians.
Many Christians ridicule atheists. Attack them as people. Make fun of their lack of belief in God as equivocal to that of children believing in the Easter Bunny. But also want to bring real harm by the elimination and change of US Culture to insert God and replace the Constitution with the Bible as the head of all authority. They want to tax, and consequently, shut down anyone that disagrees with them.
Christianity not only brings a cultural breakdown of basic American Values and Traditions, but at its very core promotes the principles of insanity.
Many Atheists want the 20+% of the people that don't believe in God to bow down to them, and say "Merry Christmas", "God Bless you", or "One Nation Under God".
They don't care that 20+% of Americans are offended that God is forced into their daily lives. Nobody is barring Christians from church, or to be buried in a cemetary, or to celebrate Christmas. But they want all of it to be mandated into any public area to accomodate their personal belief system..
Understand, whenever people preach God, there will ALWAYS be oppostion. It is our freedom and right to be free from God in everything we do. Many Christians piss people off because they don't think of them as people that want to be free from their beliefs but are hostile people instead, that are out to stop us from celebrating ours.
Happy Holidays,
Mike Deleve"
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<DIV> </DIV>Garrett Clevenger
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