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Oooohhhhh, so sorrrry Chuck. Let me re-phrase.<BR>
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By serving 5 months of a 5-15yr sentence for having the chicken shit nerve to pull out a gun and strip someone of their life from their family then taking a bargain basement deal that changes the definition in a legal sense; you're right, he didn't get away with murder.<BR>
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He got away with killing a guy.<BR>
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Very clear now....Thanks.<BR><BR>
Maybe we should all carry guns around in case we have a small dispute to settle and are too weak to use our fist or take a hit.<BR>
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Hell, drunk's kill completely innocent and unsuspecting drivers all the time and seem to serve out their time for IN-voluntary murder. What programs are available for them to get off with only 5 months as this case of VOLUNTARY MURDER?<BR>
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<BR>Webster's definition (hint: not the same as a lawyer's)<BR>
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<DIV>Function: <EM>noun</EM> </DIV>
<DIV>Etymology: partly from Middle English <EM>murther,</EM> from Old English <EM>morthor;</EM> partly from Middle English <EM>murdre,</EM> from Anglo-French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English <EM>morthor;</EM> akin to Old High German <EM>mord</EM> murder, Latin <EM>mort-, mors</EM> death, <EM>mori</EM> to die, <EM>mortuus</EM> dead, Greek <EM>brotos</EM> mortal</DIV>
<DIV>Date: before 12th century</DIV>
<P class=d><!--INFOLINKS_ON--><STRONG>1</STRONG> <STRONG>:</STRONG> <SPAN id=IL_AD1 class=IL_AD><U><FONT color=#009900>the crime</FONT></U></SPAN> of unlawfully killing <SPAN id=IL_AD2 class=IL_AD><U><FONT color=#009900>a person</FONT></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=d><STRONG>2 a</STRONG> <STRONG>:</STRONG> something very difficult or dangerous <SPAN class=vi><the traffic was murder></SPAN> <STRONG>b</STRONG> <STRONG>:</STRONG> something outrageous or blameworthy <SPAN class=vi><getting away with murder></SPAN><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> </P></DIV>> From: vision2020-request@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 41, Issue 53<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:10:20 -0800<BR>> <BR>> Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to<BR>> vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020<BR>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>> vision2020-request@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>> vision2020-owner@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Today's Topics:<BR>> <BR>> 1. Re: [Spam 3.11] Re: WTF? (Chuck Kovis)<BR>> 2. Re: Just Curious (keely emerinemix)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 1<BR>> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:10:06 -0800<BR>> From: "Chuck Kovis" <ckovis@turbonet.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Spam 3.11] Re: WTF?<BR>> To: "donald edwards" <donaledwards@hotmail.com>,<BR>> <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> Message-ID: <006201ca5e64$bbd9e3c0$6ea8a8c0@CEK><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>> <BR>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but this guy plead guilty to manslaughter, not murder. There is a REAL BIG difference, in case anyone was in some small way concerned with the facts. Chuck Kovis<BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20091105/7ddde6bc/attachment-0001.html <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 2<BR>> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:07:09 -0800<BR>> From: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious<BR>> To: <deco@moscow.com>, <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> Message-ID: <COL105-W44552A448F1D30E72FDA9C82B00@phx.gbl><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> For heaven's sake, Wayne, you just wrote to me that he did have a drinking problem. I think that's probably clear enough. And, for the zillionth time, I think it's inappropriate -- hurtful, unkind -- to bring it up.<BR>> <BR>> ?????<BR>> <BR>> Keely<BR>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: deco@moscow.com<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:49:02 -0800<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> JFOR, Matt stop lying!<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I have never made such an assertion.<BR>> <BR>> Show V2020 anything that I asserted that even resembled "he's is in <BR>> and has been in an alcohol recovery program". You are free to post all <BR>> private correspondence between us on this subject.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> W.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: <BR>> Matt <BR>> Decker <BR>> To: kjajmix1@msn.com ; philosopher.joe@gmail.com <BR>> Cc: vision2020@moscow.com <BR>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:59 <BR>> PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just <BR>> Curious<BR>> <BR>> I believe his words something to the effect of "he's is in and <BR>> has been in an alcohol recovery program". He never said alki but thats the way <BR>> most will take it. For that I apologize to Wayne.<BR>> <BR>> MD <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: kjajmix1@msn.com<BR>> To: philosopher.joe@gmail.com; mattd2107@hotmail.com<BR>> Date: Thu, 5 <BR>> Nov 2009 08:31:45 -0800<BR>> CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Re: <BR>> [Vision2020] Just Curious<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I must have missed Art Deco's saying that Weber was an "alki," but if that <BR>> happened, it's beyond regrettable and I hope Wayne apologizes . . . <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Keely<BR>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: philosopher.joe@gmail.com<BR>> To: mattd2107@hotmail.com<BR>> Date: Thu, 5 <BR>> Nov 2009 08:01:35 -0800<BR>> CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Re: <BR>> [Vision2020] Just Curious<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> One other thing. When someone brought up Weber's job as a bartender, I <BR>> did write on the V that that was irrelevant. Maybe you have a better opinion <BR>> of me if you stopped distorting what I say and stopped conveniently forgetting <BR>> the posts I write that you agree with.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:06 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107@hotmail.com> <BR>> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Joe,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Exactly Joe, "what has anyone done on the left that you have complained <BR>> about"?<BR>> <BR>> To clarify when I stated negativity or mudslinging goes <BR>> both ways, I was not just meaning around here. I believe our town has a <BR>> wide variety of faces and opinions all worthy. But dont for one minute <BR>> think that the good ol nasty mudslinging doesnt happen both <BR>> ways.<BR>> <BR>> Ex.<BR>> <BR>> Art deco claiming Weber is an alki <BR>> and mentioning how he works at the club. How does he know? Is Art <BR>> a drinking buddy? What is the purpose of stating he works at a bar. <BR>> Answer: To BELITTLE <BR>> <BR>> Another one<BR>> <BR>> A lady wrote <BR>> an opinion piece in the daily news about two weeks ago mentioning how she <BR>> won't vote for Weber or Brown because of "these" obnoxious signs around <BR>> town. How all the money raised by the GMA is being wasted on signs. Low and <BR>> behold the facts come out showing that Chaney has made more money along <BR>> with Reese raising more than Weber. Also, Chaney having the samne size signs <BR>> all throughout Moscow.<BR>> <BR>> Lastly for the <BR>> night<BR>> <BR>> You<BR>> <BR>> "This is why the radical right movement <BR>> is such a joke. They promote <BR>> the view that government is out of touch <BR>> and corrupt yet their <BR>> candidate for mayor needs a third party to <BR>> communicate and their state <BR>> senator likes to circumvent the democratic <BR>> process with last minute <BR>> stunts, like this weekend's <BR>> letter".<BR>> <BR>> Along with referring to our city council as "joke <BR>> radicals". Care to explain?<BR>> <BR>> Your last page excuse, mentioning <BR>> how you never said they are radicals, looks weird to me from the above <BR>> statements.<BR>> <BR>> Joe can you imagine if I said the radical <BR>> left movement on this site. But then again I wouldn't do that. Just <BR>> like I don't expect that from you. <BR>> <BR>> Take <BR>> care<BR>> <BR>> MD<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: philosopher.joe@gmail.com<BR>> To: <BR>> mattd2107@hotmail.com<BR>> Subject: <BR>> Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious<BR>> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:20:10 -0800<BR>> CC: <BR>> vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Give me a break! What exactly has anyone from the left done that I have <BR>> complained about? Give ONE example? There is none.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Again, what IS radical if circumventing the Democratic process is not? <BR>> And if you've been paying attention, it wasn't the first time. It is a <BR>> regular occurence. What IS radical if having connections with a group on the <BR>> Southern Poverty Law Center watch list is not?<BR>> <BR>> Sent from my iPhone<BR>> <BR>> On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Matt Decker <mattd2107@hotmail.com> <BR>> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> So why not complain when the left does it Joe? Don't tell me they <BR>> don't. <BR>> <BR>> Both sides do and I don't agree with it. But, to label Gary <BR>> as a radical, is a little far fetched in my opinion.<BR>> <BR>> Gotta <BR>> work<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: philosopher.joe@gmail.com<BR>> To: <BR>> mattd2107@hotmail.com<BR>> Date: <BR>> Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:46:04 -0800<BR>> CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: <BR>> Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Another thing: if circumventing the Democratic process is not radical <BR>> enough, what is? <BR>> <BR>> Sent from my iPhone<BR>> <BR>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:11 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107@hotmail.com> <BR>> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Ok. So is he radical?<BR>> <BR>> M<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: philosopher.joe@gmail.com<BR>> To: <BR>> mattd2107@hotmail.com<BR>> Subject: <BR>> Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious<BR>> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:54:38 <BR>> -0800<BR>> CC: thansen@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Matt,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> He quoted the sitting mayor from a confidential letter leaked on <BR>> Dale Courtney's website. At least that was the source according to his <BR>> website when I checked it this morning.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> He also quoted Nancy out of context. And he did it all while hiding <BR>> his source. Why did he hide the source? Well one reason is that we'd <BR>> figure out the quote was out of context. You guess the other <BR>> reason.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I'm for information, not distortion. That's democracy for me. Give <BR>> me the info and I'll decide. And when my guy resorts to this sort of <BR>> crap, I tell him to hit the road. <BR>> <BR>> Sent from my iPhone<BR>> <BR>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107@hotmail.com> <BR>> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Not so sure Schroeder is radical right. Do you think he is <BR>> in the same as Limbaugh and Hannity?<BR>> <BR>> > From: philosopher.joe@gmail.com<BR>> > <BR>> To: thansen@moscow.com<BR>> > Date: <BR>> Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:03:38 -0800<BR>> > CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > <BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious<BR>> > <BR>> > This is why <BR>> the radical right movement is such a joke. 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