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Sorry, Wayne, but I stand by my point that any alcohol problem is irrelevant unless it can be demonstrated that it has affected his career in the public sector. Now that he's a private citizen again, it is and should be off limits.<br><br><font style="" color="#8064a2"><font style="font-size: 12pt;" size="3"><font style="" face="Verdana">Keely<br>www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<br></font></font></font><br><br><br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">From: deco@moscow.com<br>To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:38:01 -0800<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious<br><br>
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<div>Keely,</div>
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<div>I didn't say Weber was an alki, in fact, Matt Decker said it to me in
an off-list letter.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I did say that his primary occupation was that of a bartender at The Corner
Club. I said that because Weber knowingly continued to posture himself as
a project manager long after he was terminated from that position and after it
was pointed out months ago. The appellation"project manager" in this case
was really a stretch -- paid local lobbyist would be more accurate.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I did say that Weber had a drinking problem. In addition to receiving
information about this during the last two years from many sources including
some who know Weber well and like him, I offered on this list to have any of
those supporters (like Keim & Kimberling) to run a poll of 10 of his friends
and post the results. That did not happen. While Keim argued that
Weber's false claims were not worthy of comment, he offered no rebuttal of the
claims about Weber's drinking habits, nor did anyone else.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Perhaps, to some lying on a resume or having a drinking problem is not a
serious thing. During my career as a consultant which included helping
businesses recruit and hire personnel, lying on a resume and/or having a
drinking problem was an automatic disqualification from consideration of
employment in the private sector for obvious reasons. Why should it be
different for the public sector?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Wayne A. Fox<br>1009 Karen Lane<br>PO Box 9421<br>Moscow, ID
83843</div>
<div> </div>
<div><a href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</a><br>208 882-7975</div>
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<div><br></div>I must have missed Art Deco's saying that Weber was an "alki,"
but if that happened, it's beyond regrettable and I hope Wayne apologizes . .
. <br><br><font color="#8064a2"><font style="font-size: 12pt;" size="3"><font face="Verdana">Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a><br></font></font></font><br><br><br><br>
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From: <a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a><br>To:
<a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a><br>Date: Thu,
5 Nov 2009 08:01:35 -0800<br>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Just Curious<br><br>
<div>One other thing. When someone brought up Weber's job as a bartender, I
did write on the V that that was irrelevant. Maybe you have a better opinion
of me if you stopped distorting what I say and stopped conveniently forgetting
the posts I write that you agree with.<br><br><br></div>
<div><br>On Nov 4, 2009, at 10:06 PM, Matt Decker <<a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div>Joe,<br> <br>
Exactly Joe, "what has anyone done on the left that you have complained
about"?<br> <br>To clarify when I stated negativity or mudslinging goes
both ways, I was not just meaning around here. I believe our town has a
wide variety of faces and opinions all worthy. But dont for one minute
think that the good ol nasty mudslinging doesnt happen both
ways.<br> <br>Ex.<br> <br>Art deco claiming Weber is an alki
and mentioning how he works at the club. How does he know? Is Art
a drinking buddy? What is the purpose of stating he works at a bar.
Answer: To BELITTLE <br> <br>Another one<br> <br>A lady wrote
an opinion piece in the daily news about two weeks ago mentioning how she
won't vote for Weber or Brown because of "these" obnoxious signs around
town. How all the money raised by the GMA is being wasted on signs. Low and
behold the facts come out showing that Chaney has made more money along
with Reese raising more than Weber. Also, Chaney having the samne size signs
all throughout Moscow.<br> <br>Lastly for the
night<br> <br>You<br> <br>"This is why the radical right movement
is such a joke. They promote <br>the view that government is out of touch
and corrupt yet their <br>candidate for mayor needs a third party to
communicate and their state <br>senator likes to circumvent the democratic
process with last minute <br>stunts, like this weekend's
letter".<br> <br>Along with referring to our city council as "joke
radicals". Care to explain?<br> <br>Your last page excuse, mentioning
how you never said they are radicals, looks weird to me from the above
statements.<br> <br>Joe can you imagine if I said the radical
left movement on this site. But then again I wouldn't do that. Just
like I don't expect that from you. <br> <br>Take
care<br> <br>MD<br> <br> <br> <br><br> <br>
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From: <a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a><br>To:
<a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a><br>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious<br>Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:20:10 -0800<br>CC:
<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><br>
<div>Give me a break! What exactly has anyone from the left done that I have
complained about? Give ONE example? There is none.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Again, what IS radical if circumventing the Democratic process is not?
And if you've been paying attention, it wasn't the first time. It is a
regular occurence. What IS radical if having connections with a group on the
Southern Poverty Law Center watch list is not?</div>
<div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Nov 3, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Matt Decker <<a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div>So why not complain when the left does it Joe? Don't tell me they
don't. <br><br>Both sides do and I don't agree with it. But, to label Gary
as a radical, is a little far fetched in my opinion.<br><br>Gotta
work<br><br>
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From: <a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a><br>To:
<a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a><br>Date:
Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:46:04 -0800<br>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious<br><br>
<div>Another thing: if circumventing the Democratic process is not radical
enough, what is? <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Nov 2, 2009, at 11:11 PM, Matt Decker <<a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div>Ok. So is he radical?<br> <br>M<br><br>
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From: <a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a><br>To:
<a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a><br>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious<br>Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:54:38
-0800<br>CC: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><br>
<div>Matt,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>He quoted the sitting mayor from a confidential letter leaked on
Dale Courtney's website. At least that was the source according to his
website when I checked it this morning.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>He also quoted Nancy out of context. And he did it all while hiding
his source. Why did he hide the source? Well one reason is that we'd
figure out the quote was out of context. You guess the other
reason.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I'm for information, not distortion. That's democracy for me. Give
me the info and I'll decide. And when my guy resorts to this sort of
crap, I tell him to hit the road.<span class="ecxecxecxecxecxApple-style-span"> </span></div>
<div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>On Nov 2, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Matt Decker <<a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div>Not so sure Schroeder is radical right. Do you think he is
in the same as Limbaugh and Hannity?<br> <br>> From: <a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a><br>>
To: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>> Date:
Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:03:38 -0800<br>> CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious<br>> <br>> This is why
the radical right movement is such a joke. They promote <br>> the
view that government is out of touch and corrupt yet their <br>>
candidate for mayor needs a third party to communicate and their state
<br>> senator likes to circumvent the democratic process with last
minute <br>> stunts, like this weekend's letter.<br>> <br>>
Sent from my iPhone<br>> <br>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:26 PM, "Tom
Hansen" <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>>
wrote:<br>> <br>> > Bottom line, Wayne . . .<br>>
><br>> > If the mayor is not accessible by the people, how is
that mayor <br>> > going to<br>> > represent those
people?<br>> ><br>> > Mayor Chaney responds to public
email inquiries regularly.<br>> ><br>> > Here it is the
night before election day and the people of Moscow <br>> >
don't<br>> > even know if John Weber even checks his
email.<br>> ><br>> > Why does John Weber respond to the
people of Moscow, DURING HIS <br>> > ELECTION<br>> >
CAMPAIGN, through a third party (Greg Kimberling)?<br>>
><br>> > If John Weber is elected mayor, will Greg Kimberling
be Mayor Weber's<br>> > communication link with the people of
Moscow?<br>> ><br>> > Seeya at the polls, Moscow.<br>>
><br>> > Tom Hansen<br>> > Moscow, Idaho<br>>
><br>> > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the
Optimist expects it to <br>> > change<br>> > and the
Realist adjusts his sails."<br>> ><br>> > -
Unknown<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >
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