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Naw, I wasn't expecting a mutually respectful debate on the screen. I meant a mutually respectful discussion among those of us in the audience afterward. I'm familiar with Chris Hitchens' work and his persona as a conservative, boozy intellectual/writer given to throwing rhetorical bombs. That's his charm. It sounds like the film might be entertaining and fodder for good discussion, though.<BR>
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I enjoyed the Newsweek religion editor's take on it ... but I expect that I will feel compelled to watch the movie anyway. <A href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/219009">http://www.newsweek.com/id/219009</A><BR>
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- Selina<BR> <BR>> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:59:43 -0700<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Local Media Celebrity<BR>> From: thansen@moscow.com<BR>> To: philosopher.joe@gmail.com<BR>> CC: selinadavis@hotmail.com; vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> I simply write this whole debate thing off as some kind of theological<BR>> soap opera, Joe.<BR>> <BR>> Holy Rapture, Batman!<BR>> <BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>> <BR>> > Mutally respectful discussion from Hitchens and Wilson? You haven't<BR>> > really followed the debate, have you. Hitchens thinks that<BR>> > fundamentalists like Wilson are dangerous idiots. He also thinks that<BR>> > ALL Christians are fundamentalists. Thus, religion in general is<BR>> > nothing more than dangerous idiocy.<BR>> ><BR>> > Wilson, of course, thinks that Christianity allows for slavery -- that<BR>> > some slavery is permissable -- and has written -- well, at least wrote<BR>> > part of since the original work was partly ripped if from a<BR>> > discredited academic source -- a revisionist history of American<BR>> > slavery, where it turns out that the best race relations in the<BR>> > country happened when we kept blacks in chains!<BR>> ><BR>> > This is not an academic debate -- they have exactly one MA between<BR>> > them. This is a circus, where difficult issues about religion are<BR>> > glossed over in favor of insulting generalizations. Of course, this<BR>> > kind of crap has always sold well!<BR>> ><BR>> > Sent from my iPhone<BR>> ><BR>> > On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Selina Davis <selinadavis@hotmail.com><BR>> > wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >> And here's the link to info about the movie:<BR>> >> http://www.collisionmovie.com/<BR>> >> and a link to Pastor Wilson with Chris Hitchens for an hour on the<BR>> >> nationally-syndicated Laura Ingraham Show today (haven't listened to<BR>> >> it yet): http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2009/10/23/70483.aspx<BR>> >><BR>> >> It's always intriguing when someone around here gains a degree of<BR>> >> notoriety beyond our region. Can we anticipate a showing and<BR>> >> spirited (yet hopefully mutually respectful) discussion at the Nuart<BR>> >> and/or Kenworthy sometime soon?<BR>> >><BR>> >> - Selina<BR>> >><BR>> >> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:41:30 -0700<BR>> >> From: rforce2003@yahoo.com<BR>> >> To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> >> Subject: [Vision2020] Local Media Celebrity<BR>> >><BR>> >> fighting words<BR>> >> Faith No More<BR>> >> What I've learned from debating religious people around the world.<BR>> >> By Christopher Hitchens<BR>> >> Posted Monday, Oct. 26, 2009, at 11:21 AM ET<BR>> >><BR>> >> This week sees the opening on various cinema marquees of the film<BR>> >> Collision: a buddy-and-road movie featuring last year's debates<BR>> >> between Pastor Douglas Wilson, who is a senior fellow at New St.<BR>> >> Andrew's College, and your humble servant. 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