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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Oh, by the way, I forgot to include that vehicle
operators might also give some small consideration to keeping an eye out for the
two wheeled menaces and try as much as possible to not mash them like bugs where
it can be reasonably avoided.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=philosopher.joe@gmail.com href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe
Campbell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=deco@moscow.com
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 30, 2009 4:54
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] MPD Press
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<DIV>Great letter! Just to be clear, I agree with Matt, Sunil, and Paul that
there are problematic bikers. I disagree that the best solution is biker
beware. As a biker, I see the truth in biker beware. I have a family; I'm not
going to get myself killed. But I'm not the problem. I ride primarily on
trails. I'm not the one darting in front of your cars. Ticket those idiots, as
Wayne suggests. </DIV>
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<DIV>I just want my right of way respected when I have it. I mentioned three
times in the last week where it was not. One time was a white truck that
accelerated from 1/2 block away. There biker beware is a dangerous political
dogma.<BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Oct 30, 2009, at 10:32 AM, "Art Deco" <<A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>There is no doubt that Matt, Sunil, Paul are correct about
the behavior of certain pedestrians and bicyclists (and skateboarders,
roller skaters, scooter riders, et al). Some are carelessly
stupid. When caught, they ought be cited for their own good, and for
the good of safe drivers who might unavoidably collide with
them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>However, the number of serious vehicle infractions -- not
stopping for traffic signals or stop signs, not stopping when there
is clearly time for pedestrians, etc in crosswalks, making unsafe
turns and/or entrances, highly inappropriate speed -- that I frequently
observe is frightening.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I am sure that many are tired of hearing about this, but
yesterday, I had another close call at Washington and 3rd. I was going
east on 3rd and stopped for the light. The light turned
green. I looked but didn't see anyone coming north on
Washington. Just as I started to move and was crossing the pedestrian
lane a SUV on Washington sped through the signal turning left onto
3rd. I had to brake sharply to avoid being t-boned.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>This intersection is only one block from the MPD
office. The kind of incident I describe above is not uncommon.
Frequently cars turning left onto 3rd violate not only the traffic signal
laws, but pull out and block east moving traffic on 3rd when there
obviously isn't a place on the north side of 3rd for them to clear from the
oncoming traffic.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>It's not rocket science. If the MPD wants to have a
concentrated enforcement action, then run a sting on that intersection for a
month. Maybe the money collected from such a sting would help
defray the expenses incurred by Steed, Krauss, their clueless leader, John
Weber, and the City of Moscow trying to avoid complying with public records
laws.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Wayne A. Fox<BR>1009 Karen Lane<BR>PO Box 9421<BR>Moscow,
ID 83843</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><A href="mailto:waf@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</A></A><BR>208
882-7975</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=godshatter@yahoo.com href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">Paul
Rumelhart</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 30, 2009 7:25
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] MPD Press
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<DIV><BR></DIV>In the Navy, we called this the "Law of Gross
Tonnage". A sailboat <BR>theoretically has right of way over an
aircraft carrier, but good luck <BR>asserting that right.<BR><BR>The one
thing I wish some bicyclists would clue in on: car's don't stop <BR>on a
dime. They have a certain momentum that has to be taken into
<BR>account. In a fight between even a small car's mass and a
bicycle, <BR>guess who's going to win? Yeah, you might theoretically
have had the <BR>right of way - but it will do you little good when you
are dead.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>Sunil Ramalingam wrote:<BR>> Joe and
Tom,<BR>><BR>> It was clear to me that Matt was not saying that
'Might makes Right,' <BR>> or that he wanted to speed through town with
disregard for the rights <BR>> of bike riders. I don't see that
in what he wrote. I do see him <BR>> asking for the law to be applied
to drivers and bike riders.<BR>><BR>> What he did express, and I
share it with him, is frustration for bike <BR>> riders who at best
ride like boneheads, if not sphincters. I still <BR>> ride my
bike some of the time, and I lived for years in Davis, CA, <BR>> where
I rode everywhere for years. And I don't ride down the middle
<BR>> of a one-way street expecting cars and trucks to get out of my
way. I <BR>> don't ride on a sidewalk if there are pedestrians on
it, and I sure <BR>> don't ride on a sidewalk and dart into traffic
without making eye <BR>> contact with the drivers heading towards
me.<BR>><BR>> Vehicle size DOES matter. That semi is not going
to stop in time if I <BR>> zip in front of it. Inertia is going to
trump everything else, and a <BR>> healthy sense of self-preservation
ought to be front and center in <BR>> each bike rider's mind when on
the road.<BR>><BR>> Sunil<BR>><BR>>
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From: <A href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"><A
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A></A><BR>>
To: <A href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"><A
href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</A></A><BR>>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:01:37 -0700<BR>> CC: <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A><BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MPD Press Release<BR>><BR>> Is your
politcal philosophy 'might makes right'? You make it seem as <BR>> if
all that matters is the size of the vehical. <BR>><BR>> Look, you
live in a town where a lot of folks ride bikes. Get over it, <BR>> slow
down, and observe all traffic laws. <BR>><BR>> When you come to a
crosswalk slow down since it is possible that some <BR>> dumb kid might
come darting in front of your BIG vehical. Likely he <BR>> didn't read
your warning and although he'll be dead you'll have to <BR>> live with
your own carelessness for the rest of your life. And when <BR>> his
parents sue you, your previous post is not going to look so good <BR>>
in court.<BR>><BR>> Slow down; yeild to those with right of way. Not
too much to ask!<BR>><BR>> Sent from my iPhone<BR>><BR>> On
Oct 29, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Matt Decker <<A
href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"><A
href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</A></A> <BR>>
<<A href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"><A
href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com</A></A>>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>> Does this impede the abilty
to navigate the bike, such as down the<BR>>
wrong way of the middle of the one way street. Kind of like what
I<BR>> had to break hard with my truck and
trailer today.<BR>>
<BR>> To all
bikers.....................<BR>>
<BR>> I do not understand why it is such a hard
concept to understand a<BR>> vehicle is a big
moving object. One that can cause really
bad<BR>> damage to the body if contact was
made. I, and believe most<BR>> drivers try to
be observant to the surroundings but accidents
do<BR>> happen. With the sue happy society we
have, I dread the idea of a<BR>> biker breaking
the law but I happen to get nailed with the
citation.<BR>>
<BR>> I just ask that all bikers, pedestrians,
and drivers use their<BR>> heads as well as
live to the law and common sense.<BR>>
<BR>><BR>>
<BR>>
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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:21:14 -0700<BR>>
From: <A href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com"><A
href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">rforce2003@yahoo.com</A></A> <<A
href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com"><A
href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com</A></A>><BR>>
To: <A href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"><A
href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</A></A> <<A
href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"><A
href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com</A></A>>;<BR>>
<A href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A></A> <<A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">mailto:deco@moscow.com</A></A>>; <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A><BR>>
<<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</A></A>><BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MPD Press
Release<BR>><BR>> You should signal if you
can, but sometimes you're leaning on the<BR>>
brakes or holding on for dear life (usually, in my
case).<BR>><BR>> (4) A signal of
intention to turn right or left shall be
given<BR>> during
not<BR>> less than the last one hundred (100)
feet traveled by the bicycle<BR>>
before<BR>> turning, provided that a signal by
hand and arm need not be given<BR>> if the
hand<BR>> is needed in the control or operation
of the bicycle.<BR>> <A
href="http://www3.state.id.us/cgi-bin/newidst?sctid=490070020.K"><A
href="http://www3.state.id.us/cgi-bin/newidst?sctid=490070020.K">http://www3.state.id.us/cgi-bin/newidst?sctid=490070020.K</A></A><BR>><BR>>
Ron Force<BR>> Moscow ID
USA<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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*From:* Matt Decker <<A href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"><A
href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</A></A><BR>>
<<A href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"><A
href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com</A></A>>><BR>>
*To:* <A href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A></A> <<A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">mailto:deco@moscow.com</A></A>>;<BR>>
<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A> <<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</A></A>><BR>>
*Sent:* Wed, October 28, 2009 7:47:44 PM<BR>>
*Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] MPD Press
Release<BR>><BR>> Just counted four bikers
not use turn signals today. Two more<BR>>
swirve from sidewalk to other sidewalk and one more blow through
a<BR>> stoplight today. That was just my usual
30 minute time<BR>>
downtown/campus.<BR>>
<BR>> So my question to you, why not ticket
those infractions as well as<BR>> the usual
driver ones too? What is so wrong with biker
safety?<BR>>
<BR>>
MD<BR>><BR>>
<BR>>
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From: <A href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A></A> <<A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">mailto:deco@moscow.com</A></A>><BR>>
To: <A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A></A> <<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</A></A>><BR>>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:02:41 -0700<BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MPD Press
Release<BR>><BR>> Bicyclists and pedestrians
are the enemy. <BR>> Motorized vehicles are our
friends.<BR>>
<BR>>
Therefore,<BR>>
<BR>> The MPD doesn't give a rat's ass about
vehicle infractions except<BR>> DUIs ,
especially if they are not committed by white trash
or<BR>> other
minorities.<BR>>
<BR>>
W.<BR>><BR>> -----
Original Message
-----<BR>> *From:* Joe
Campbell <<A href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"><A
href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A></A>><BR>>
*To:* Stephanie Kalasz <<A href="mailto:skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us"><A
href="mailto:skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us">mailto:skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us</A></A>><BR>>
*Cc:* v2020 <<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</A></A>><BR>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:03
PM<BR>> *Subject:* Re:
[Vision2020] MPD Press
Release<BR>><BR>>
Why have I not seen one reminder yet of the
responsibilities<BR>>
of the driver? Just the other day I saw a police car
drive<BR>> through a
crosswalk while people were walking in it. How
many<BR>> citations
were written for this offense, I
wonder?<BR>><BR>>
Sent from my
iPhone<BR>><BR>> On
Oct 27, 2009, at 4:34 PM, "Stephanie
Kalasz"<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us"><A
href="mailto:skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us">skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us</A></A>
<<A href="mailto:skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us"><A
href="mailto:skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us">mailto:skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us</A></A>>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>>
MOSCOW POLICE
DEPARTMENT<BR>><BR>>
118 East 4th
Street<BR>><BR>>
Moscow, Idaho
83843<BR>><BR>>
Tel: 208-882-COPS Fax:
208-882-4020<BR>><BR>><BR>>
*PRESS
RELEASE*<BR>><BR>>
Moscow Police Department Officers are focusing efforts
on<BR>>
increasing public awareness related to bicycle
safety.<BR>><BR>>
In an effort to increase public awareness and reduce
the<BR>>
number of vehicle/bicycle collisions, M.P.D. Officers
will<BR>>
be focusing their efforts on violations pertaining to
the<BR>>
following traffic
codes:<BR>><BR>>
-Idaho Code:
49-720<BR>><BR>>
When approaching a stop sign, on a roadway, bicycles
must<BR>>
slow to a reasonable speed and yield to vehicles in
the<BR>>
intersection and vehicles approaching the intersection;
so<BR>>
close as to constitute an immediate hazard. Even
though<BR>>
bicycles are not required to come to a complete stop
at<BR>>
stop signs, if they are on the roadway, they are
not<BR>>
excused from yielding and proceeding, only after
waiting<BR>>
their appropriate turn. Their turn to proceed is
assigned<BR>>
the same as that of other vehicles on the
roadway.<BR>><BR>>
-Idaho Code:
49-720<BR>><BR>>
A bicycle, operated on the roadway, must stop
when<BR>>
approaching a red traffic signal. The Bicyclist may
then<BR>>
proceed as if the red light is a stop sign. The
bicyclist<BR>>
must yield the right of way to all vehicles operating
on<BR>>
the roadway with the applicable green or yellow
light.<BR>><BR>>
-Idaho Code: 49-702,
49-714<BR>><BR>>
Bicycles operated on the roadway have the
same<BR>>
responsibilities as motor vehicles to use
appropriate<BR>>
lanes, appropriate speed, direction of travel, to
not<BR>>
impede traffic, and yield or stop if need be
for<BR>>
pedestrians in crosswalks. Bicycles are not permitted
to<BR>>
pass vehicles on the right and bicyclists are required
to<BR>>
use due
caution.<BR>><BR>>
-Idaho Code:
49-721<BR>><BR>>
Bicycles must yield to foot traffic when on
sidewalks.<BR>><BR>>
-Idaho Code:
49-803<BR>><BR>>
Pedestrians and bicycles leaving sidewalks must
obey<BR>>
pedestrian control signals. It is unlawful to
begin<BR>>
crossing the roadway when a signal shows a solid
or<BR>>
flashing “Don’t
Walk”.<BR>><BR>>
-Idaho Code:
49-704<BR>><BR>>
It is unlawful for pedestrians to cross
roadways<BR>>
diagonally or between adjacent intersections where
traffic<BR>>
signals are in
operation.<BR>><BR>>
DANIEL L.
WEAVER<BR>>
<BR>>
Prepared
by:<BR>><BR>>
Chief
of<BR>>
Police
<BR>>
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Lovell<BR>><BR>>
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