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<DIV><FONT size=2>If you think that hatred and condemnation of gays is all Fred
Phelps and Douglas Wilson share, think again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>They both start their fundamental theological positions from,
and both are unrelenting,
apodictic, full-doctrine Calvinists.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Tom Hansen is quite correct. Both Wilson and Phelps make
their positions prodigiously available on the web, and in Wilson's case, destroy
whole forests with crackpot tracts from his vanity press. The
preachings in some of these tracts are at wide variance with some of Wilson's
own behavior. He is a liar and hypocrite in these and other
matters.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>As far as visiting Christ Church: I don't have to swim
in a cesspool to know what it is. In addition, I hate seeing sheep fleeced
during a blizzard, and then led to slaughter.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>W.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=objectivereason@gmail.com
href="mailto:objectivereason@gmail.com">Objective Reason</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm
href="mailto:v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm">Saundra Lund</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 19, 2009 5:22
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] More
Evangelical Christians are Getting It</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Evangelical Christians are getting it? There is nothing
for Christians to get in that area. The Bible is explicitly clear
concerning homosexuality.
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<DIV>I Cor. 6:9-10 "<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Charis SIL', charis, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 16px"
class=Apple-style-span>Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not
inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually
immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice
homosexuality,<FONT class=Apple-style-span size=3><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 6px; FONT-SIZE: 12px"
class=Apple-style-span> </SPAN></FONT>nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor
drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=4
face="'Charis SIL', charis, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><SPAN
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span size=4
face="'Charis SIL', charis, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px" class=Apple-style-span>I Tim. 1:9-11 "understanding
this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and
disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for
those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually
immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and
whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance
with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I
have been entrusted."<BR></SPAN></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV>These verses are pretty self-explanatory (whether you agree with them or
not). So Christians that are beginning to accept homosexuality are going
against their own faith. I'm sure you would say that people are entitled
to believe whatever they want, and while you obviously don't agree with
Christianity very much, it should be pointed out that those "Christians" in
the gay parades are the ones not getting it. Christians should treat
them just like murderers, enslavers, liars etc. Christians preach
against it, pray for them, and minister to them, just like murderers etc.
No bigotry here. But that's obviously not how you see it.</DIV>
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<DIV>Art- You sure draw a lot of conclusions and create a lot of conspiracy
theories by not attending the conference or visiting the churches you attack.
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Saundra Lund <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl.fastmail.fm</A>></SPAN>
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class=gmail_quote>In spite of Christ Church's gross perversion last week
(the "Sexual<BR>Orthodoxy" ministerial conference), it heartens me to
continue to come<BR>across more and more Evangelical Christians who really
are getting it.<BR><BR>A Step in Faith<BR>Evangelical Christian Brent
Childers explains his journey from believing<BR>that homosexuality was an
abomination to marching in a pro-gay march on<BR>Washington.<BR><BR><A
href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/216910"
target=_blank>http://www.newsweek.com/id/216910</A><BR><BR>"There are many,
many others I have met in my work with Faith in America, as<BR>we try to
bring awareness and understanding to the pain and trauma caused to<BR>LGBT
people, especially youth, when church teaching is misused to justify<BR>and
promote a societal climate of rejection, condemnation,
and<BR>discrimination. . . Every person coming to Washington-whether they
are<BR>religious or not-does share one faith, and that is faith in America.
We can<BR>and must do better. As the progress of history has shown,
Americans will<BR>prove themselves able to see beyond religion-based bigotry
to the promises<BR>of equal treatment for all. Those who use religion-based
bigotry to<BR>persecute and discriminate against LGBT people are on the
wrong side of<BR>history, just as they were with slavery, interracial
marriage, the treatment<BR>of women, and so many other
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